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Postby powenM » Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:46 pm

High Heater wrote:
PlayingWithFire wrote:keep in mind Billy Butler hit for a 880 OPS in AA last year at age 20 and Maybin hit .840 in A last year at age 19 and struck out 119 times in only 385 ab, in A Ball!


maybin laso missed time with injury and can steal 40+ again every scout out there prefers maybin over butler for many reasons obviously.


And thats really the deciding factor here. Not only do these guys know better then us(what to look for etc...) they see these players much more then us.

As i said b4 I have a couple family relatives that r mlb scouts. Ant they both prefer Maybin. (And i repeat thats just there preferance)But......the gap between them is not as great as u might think. Butler has incredible hitting upside!

Also they said not to get carried away with these sites too much. Butler's value has not dropped as much as some would have u believe!
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sun Mar 25, 2007 12:49 am

You gotta admit the bust factor is high for Maybin though.




Why is the bust factor so high on Maybin? Sure, maybe he has a slightly better chance of Busting, but with that comes a much bigger upside. Butler could easily bust and become Jack Cust as mentioned before.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:40 am

05worldserieschamps wrote:
You gotta admit the bust factor is high for Maybin though.




Why is the bust factor so high on Maybin? Sure, maybe he has a slightly better chance of Busting, but with that comes a much bigger upside. Butler could easily bust and become Jack Cust as mentioned before.


I wouldn't say slightly better chance of busting, when's the last time some prospect struck out over 100 times in under 400 ab in A ball, doesn't walk at all and then when on to do great things?
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:03 am

I wouldn't say slightly better chance of busting, when's the last time some prospect struck out over 100 times in under 400 ab in A ball, doesn't walk at all and then when on to do great things?


Troy Glaus. And He didn't have the Tools Maybin does, not even close.
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:09 am

Also, Maybin has an extra year to develop, as Maybin and Butler are almost exactly one year apart. I doubt he will strikeout out so incredibly much after another year and the more expierence he gains.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:26 am

Butler
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:05 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:
I wouldn't say slightly better chance of busting, when's the last time some prospect struck out over 100 times in under 400 ab in A ball, doesn't walk at all and then when on to do great things?


Troy Glaus. And He didn't have the Tools Maybin does, not even close.


Troy Glaus' first test in Pro Ball was in AA, not low-A ball. And that year in just over 400ab in AA and AAA combined he hit over 30HRs, still with a better k-rate than Maybin. Maybin hit how many HR in 388ab? 9?

Sure, Maybin's got a year on Butler, but Butler is currently 2 level ahead of him and will start the year in AAA(should have been in AAA last year)
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:42 pm

1. It doesn't matter where Butler and Maybin are. I don't care if Butler is in AAA and Maybin is in A. It based on potential.

2. Troy Glaus was 22 in his first Pro Season. Maybin was 19, and still is 19. You come back and tell me in 3 years who's K/BB ratio is better then. Maybin's potential is through the roof. Even if Butler does EDGE Maybin out in hitting(if he does), Maybin's 40+ Stolen Base Potential is too much.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:50 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:1. It doesn't matter where Butler and Maybin are. I don't care if Butler is in AAA and Maybin is in A. It based on potential.

2. Troy Glaus was 22 in his first Pro Season. Maybin was 19, and still is 19. You come back and tell me in 3 years who's K/BB ratio is better then. Maybin's potential is through the roof. Even if Butler does EDGE Maybin out in hitting(if he does), Maybin's 40+ Stolen Base Potential is too much.


If it's potential only Elijah Dukes would be a top 10 prospect. But it's about potential and how likely he's to get there. And IMO Butler is way more likely to arrive than Maybin.
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Postby gabba » Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:03 pm

IMO Billy Butler is the best hitter of the 3 and has proven his ability at the AA level.
Being a keeper league I would also be considering who you already have at other positions. For instance if you already have David Wright and Chase Utley wrapped up then Longoria is not even an option here.
Or if you have Carl Crawford and Grady Sizemore, then Longoria is probably my pick.

But as said by a few others you really can't go wrong with any of the 3.
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