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Postby tgalv » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:44 pm

a lot of people, me included, were expecting a bounce back LAST year and look what happened.

i'm not interested in helton unless it's a deep league and he falls. in a standard league with one 1B and one UTIL, having a guy at one of those positions who hits so few homeruns with non impressive runs/rbis is really detrimental to a team imo. it's hard to make the counting numbers up against someone who has a couple of mashers.
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Postby Drunken Rhino » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:48 pm

tgalv wrote:a lot of people, me included, were expecting a bounce back LAST year and look what happened.

i'm not interested in helton unless it's a deep league and he falls. in a standard league with one 1B and one UTIL, having a guy at one of those positions who hits so few homeruns with non impressive runs/rbis is really detrimental to a team imo. it's hard to make the counting numbers up against someone who has a couple of mashers.


I see your point in a 5x5 league, but he has definte value in leagues that count OBP. I've always liked Helton and would like to see him bounce back.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:02 pm

tgalv wrote:a lot of people, me included, were expecting a bounce back LAST year and look what happened.

i'm not interested in helton unless it's a deep league and he falls. in a standard league with one 1B and one UTIL, having a guy at one of those positions who hits so few homeruns with non impressive runs/rbis is really detrimental to a team imo. it's hard to make the counting numbers up against someone who has a couple of mashers.


OK but it is tough to bounce back when you have some serious illness that caused you to miss time and lose a lot of weight.
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Postby dooz » Thu Mar 22, 2007 5:57 pm

He has been falling a ton in the leagues I have drafted in. Initially, I had almost tagged him with the "avoid at all costs" tags because, as someone mentioned, in a 1 1B/UTL league with 12 managers, he doesnt bring a ton. But in my OBP league and my other with 2b/BB as stats, whats not to like with how far he falls?

He still hit 40 2Bs last year and was sick. The guy knows how to hit. I see 100/20/100/0/.310/.400 with an OPS around or just about .900. Now, I'm not taking him very high but I have changed my mind after seeing him fall really far. I'm not taking him in the top 100 but, for certain teams, I think Helton will do really well.

In my first draft (5x5, H2H, 12 teams), he went 131. That perked my attention.

Draft 2: (6x6 k and OBP replacing AVG, h2h 8 teams)
I took him 144th. With OBP as a cat, I'll take that risk all day, all night. With two UTL spots, I like it even more.

Draft 3: (6x6 OPS added, 10 teams H2H)
He went 153rd! I would have taken him but I needed to fill holes and had Howard.

IF he falls past 130 and it makes sense for your team/format, I'd jump all over him.

In an 18 team league, he went 96th by a guy who already had berkman and hafner. Definitely not how I would have used a 6th round pick.
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Postby CadensDad » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:18 pm

I target him in the 9-14 rounds
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Postby Grouperman941 » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:07 am

I got him at pick 163 in my 14-team keeper. Steal!

I have him backed up by Conor Jackson, who I got 2 rounds later.
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