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Postby Pedros Little Friend » Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:27 pm

Has anyone read anything about this? I've seen him hit second in a few ST games and I heard it was a possibility but is it going to be a reality? I think it hurts his value quite a bit...anyone else?
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Postby NewYorkMets7 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:03 pm

I have not heard much about him hitting second this year...but I dont understand how it could possibly "hurt" his fantasy value...

1. His average wont change while batting 2nd, 5th, 6th w/e
2. He decreases in RBIs (slightly), but wont be a huge change because he can still hit in reyes
3. Homeruns will stay the same
4. He will get !!!ALOT!!! more runs...think about all of those doubles that will now turn into runs by beltran, delgado, or alou dirving him in


I think that his value will either stay the same or maybe go up in the dramatic increase of runs
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Postby moose32 » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:04 pm

i think it only boosts his value. he'll being seeing a lot more fastballs
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Postby CT Smash » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:33 am

A switch to 2nd normally would hurt someone's value, but I don't think such is the case with Wright. Batting 2nd means doing things that help your real team that don't translate into helping one's fantasy team. Things such as taking an extra strike or two in order to allow the lead-off guy (Reyes) to steal, giving yourself up by grounding one to second in order to allow Reyes to move to third. But because Wright is a good 2-strike hitter, that shouldn't bother him. And for everytime he is asked to ground one to the right side, he's likely to get as many more fastballs to tee-off on. Plus he will be protected by Beltran and Delgado opposed to being protected by Cliff Floyd this year. And should he walk when Reyes is on base, get ready for some double steals.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Thu Mar 22, 2007 10:58 am

I think it's a slight bump up in value just due to the extra plate appearances. The rest of it probably comes out as a wash.
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Postby TheOmen » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:55 pm

CT Smash wrote:A switch to 2nd normally would hurt someone's value, but I don't think such is the case with Wright. Batting 2nd means doing things that help your real team that don't translate into helping one's fantasy team. Things such as taking an extra strike or two in order to allow the lead-off guy (Reyes) to steal, giving yourself up by grounding one to second in order to allow Reyes to move to third. But because Wright is a good 2-strike hitter, that shouldn't bother him. And for everytime he is asked to ground one to the right side, he's likely to get as many more fastballs to tee-off on. Plus he will be protected by Beltran and Delgado opposed to being protected by Cliff Floyd this year. And should he walk when Reyes is on base, get ready for some double steals.


I agree...Lets not forget Utley switched from batting 3rd to 2nd last year. Didn't hurt him at all. If anything, Wright will score even more runs, with perhaps a few less dingers.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:04 pm

NewYorkMets7 wrote:I have not heard much about him hitting second this year...but I dont understand how it could possibly "hurt" his fantasy value...

1. His average wont change while batting 2nd, 5th, 6th w/e
2. He decreases in RBIs (slightly), but wont be a huge change because he can still hit in reyes
3. Homeruns will stay the same
4. He will get !!!ALOT!!! more runs...think about all of those doubles that will now turn into runs by beltran, delgado, or alou dirving him in


I think that his value will either stay the same or maybe go up in the dramatic increase of runs


Last year the average #5 hitter in the NL had 89 runs. The average #2 hitter had 107. So, you can expect about a 20% increase in runs.

Unfortunately, with the pitcher hitting two slots in front of him, the decline in RBIs is substantial. The average #5 hitter last year had 104 RBIs. The average #2 hitter had just 71. That's a 30% decrease in RBIs.

So, the increase in PAs may give him a chance to boost HRs and maybe in the #2 slot he can steal more and his BA should not be impacted. And, hopefully, Randolph is not stupid enough to have him sac bunt.

But, the #2 slot will hurt his RBIs more than it will help his runs.
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Postby Pedros Little Friend » Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:09 pm

thanks for those stats - very helpful. i'm hoping for more sb's and maybe even more hrs because of more pa's but i'm still not sold on this move increasing his value because he was such a clutch run producer. we'll see though, it shouldn't kill his value so i'm not worried either way.

though i really think he should be hitting third with beltran second. then you'd have switch, switch, right, left, right...and so on and some good speed up front (i know wright's fast but beltran is still young enough he's definatley got more speed)
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Postby Amazinz » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:43 pm

I think those stats are somewhat misleading due to the difference between the prototypical 2-hole hitter and the prototypical 5-hole hitter. It would be interesting to look at the average opportunities afforded a 2-hole hitter compared to a 5-hole hitter. Maybe it would lead us to the same conclusion. I'm not sure but my hunch is that it would be a substantial factor.

As for the original question, I have no idea. This question is buzzing around the various Internet Mets haunts as well. Randolph hasn't really spoke of it at all. Wright just started showing up in the 2-hole. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Fri Mar 23, 2007 6:35 pm

Amazinz wrote:I think those stats are somewhat misleading due to the difference between the prototypical 2-hole hitter and the prototypical 5-hole hitter. It would be interesting to look at the average opportunities afforded a 2-hole hitter compared to a 5-hole hitter. Maybe it would lead us to the same conclusion. I'm not sure but my hunch is that it would be a substantial factor.

As for the original question, I have no idea. This question is buzzing around the various Internet Mets haunts as well. Randolph hasn't really spoke of it at all. Wright just started showing up in the 2-hole. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out.


These are averaged across all hitters so the big questions would be how Wright compares to that and how do the rest of the Mets hitters around him compare to the average NL lineup.

However, I think these are a good idea of the potential effect you are likely to see.
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