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Postby Erboes » Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:17 pm

There's a few reasons to like Hudson:

1) He's 26, moving into that magic 27.

2) He's playing for a good hitting team.

3) His progression in numbers suggest he "may" hit more homers with a higher average.

4) He's faster than his SB totals indicate, which "may" mean a large increase in steals.

5) Picking sleepers aren't as easy as everyone claims. If it were so easy, they wouldn't be sleeping, would they?

6) Sleepers, by my definition, don't have to become superstars. Hudson could go from a $9 player last season to a $15 this season and I would be correct, but I'm sure you are talking from a mixed league perspective so that may not mean much to you.

And Jackal, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there overachievers on every club yearly? Is it worth mentioning that Toronto had a couple (and I don't think the two years Hinske has played is enough to classify his rookie year as "overachieving")?
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Postby HOOTIE » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:53 am

Madison wrote:2B is the shallowest position next year. Hopefully, there will be some sleepers because it's not looking very good right now.



I still see c as the worst imo. Alot of 2b get 15-20 sb, that give them value.
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Postby Madison » Tue Dec 09, 2003 1:59 am

HOOTIE wrote:
Madison wrote:2B is the shallowest position next year. Hopefully, there will be some sleepers because it's not looking very good right now.



I still see c as the worst imo. Alot of 2b get 15-20 sb, that give them value.


Hmm.....I've got catcher as pretty deep. :-? No problem filling the catcher spot at all in a 12 team league. 2B bugs me more. :-?
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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:00 am

Transmogrifier wrote:With Matsui signing and playing short, that means Jose Reyes will play second. He'll be a great pickup, I think. What round, considering position scarcity?


How does that work? If it is known that he will play 2B, will Yahoo give him 2B and SS eligibility at the start or will they make him play a few games at 2B before putting him there?
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Postby LBJackal » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:04 am

Erboes wrote:And Jackal, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't there overachievers on every club yearly? Is it worth mentioning that Toronto had a couple (and I don't think the two years Hinske has played is enough to classify his rookie year as "overachieving")?


Sure every team has a guy who has a career year every season, however insignificant it may seem to be, but I was just stating Toronto's over-achievers since they're the team I follow. They have a good offense so if a guy gets on a roll it could have a big effect on his fantasy value (Chris Woodward was at one point a good fantasy option at SS, believe it or not).

And I'm not a big fan of Eric Hisnke, but he might turn out to be a great hitter, especially since he has so many doubles. If he can turn them into HR's he could slide into the upper tier of fantasy 3B's.
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Postby Cold_Hearted_Truth » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:08 am

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Postby Lofunzo » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:10 am

In Chicago, maybe. I don't know their history well enough for that. In the history of the game? Wait a minute. 8-o
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Postby bell » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:13 am

Area51's wrote:
chefref22 wrote:brandon philips,jimenez,reyes,ginter,hudson are all solid sleepers that i would take as my backup 2B.for a starter,i'd try to get either:soriano,bret boone,kent,vidro,giles,castillo,young,aaron boone or walker.

also,whos playing 2B in arizona? kata?



Kata is slated to start 2b at this point, I'm pretty sure. They have the Hairston kid on the farm but don't think he's quite ready.

'Zona's 2B will be a fantasy black hole. Kata will likely play the majority with Baerga taking a good chunk for himself.

Hairston made a good showing in the AFL after injuries hampered his performance in AAA this past year. I hope he makes a strong case in spring training, but....
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Postby ramble2 » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:22 am

The Zot wrote:Mike Young....he gets ZERO respect


Mike Young could be very solid at 2B.

Keep an eye on Durham. He absolutely dropped off the face of the earth last year, but was fighting injuries all year. The word in SF was that he came back before he was back to full speed, and was playing hurt all season. When he played, he wasn't all that bad compared with his career:

99: BA .296, OBP .371, R 109, HR 13, RBI 60, SB 34, OPS 805
00: BA .280, OBP .358, R 121, HR 17, RBI 75, SB 25, OPS 808
01: BA .267, OBP .336, R 104, HR 20, RBI 65, SB 23, OPS 803
02: BA .289, OBP .370, R 114, HR 15, RBI 70, SB 26, OPS 821
03: BA .285, OBP .366, R 61, HR 8, RBI 33, SB 7, OPS 807

Power numbers were down, probably thanks in part to PacBell and missed games. His SBs and Runs were down due to injuries and missed games. I'd be shocked to see 20 HRs again, but 10-15 isn't out of the question. More importantly, look for a rebound in steals and runs if he's healthy next season. See how he looks in spring training and early in the season. He could be a nice bounce back candidate, and might be worth grabbing if he's around in later rounds.

I'd like to have Durham as a backup 2B going into the season. If he performs well to open the season he (or your other 2B) could be great trade bait.
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Postby ramble2 » Tue Dec 09, 2003 3:26 am

Anyone have any word on Joey Thurston? He was supposed to be LA's 2B last season, but couldn't hack it. Will LA give him another shot?

Don't get too excited about him - he can't take a walk - but if he leads off for the Dogers he'll get some SBs and score some runs. Don't overpay for him, but remember his name.
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