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by DK » Mon Dec 08, 2003 8:58 pm

Madison wrote:
Arlo wrote:Hmm ... Albert Belle, you say? Let me think about that one...

Or maybe Mo Vaughn? or even Greg Vaughn for that matter. Lol.

Please, dear God, take Mo. Nobody else will.

by **Greenrider** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:38 pm

Not to spoil the Matsui-as-Met party, but does anyone think that Matsui is going to be an average SS at best?

According to ESPN, his Japan numbers are .309 BA, .362 OBP, .486 Slugging

Does anyone actually think he will be able to maintain, let alone improve, those numbers in the bigs? Japanese hitters have never been the greatest at plate discipline (perhaps that's why Ishii and Nomo walk guys like fiends - they aren't used to people taking their pitches), and just as Ichiro and Big Matsui saw declines in OBP and SLG, Little Matsui will as well, leaving him...as an average shortstop pulling down $7 mil per.

I just see this as another bungled Met management move - why not chip in an extra $3 mil for Tejada, a shortstop who has actually won the MVP in the majors for god's sakes?

I certainly wouldn't take Matsui in a fantasy draft ahead of:
A-Rod
Nomar
Jeter
Tejada
Renteria
Furcal
A. Boone (SS eligible in '03, dunno about '04)
O. Cabrera

In fact, I would be very impressed if Matsui matched Cabrera's numbers from last season: .297, 17HR, 80RBI, 24SB. Only difference is that Cabrera got those numbers for $3.3 mil, not $7+. I think this one's gonna come back to haunt the Mets for sure.

by **wrveres** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 10:45 pm

Greenrider wrote: Does anyone actually think he will be able to maintain, let alone improve, those numbers in the bigs?

solid post, but you forgot, in Shea Stadium?

by **Madison** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:15 pm

wrveres wrote:
Greenrider wrote: Does anyone actually think he will be able to maintain, let alone improve, those numbers in the bigs?

solid post, but you forgot, in Shea Stadium?

I agree. Hitters die in Shea. :-/

by d » Mon Dec 08, 2003 11:19 pm

d wrote:
Justise wrote:So what position is he going to play?

How much per year?

He will probably play 2B and Reyes will move to 2B ...

http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=1925530

LOL

Sorry for the typo guys ... Kaz will play SS

by **Cold_Hearted_Truth** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:00 am

BONZAI!!!

by **Madison** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 2:03 am

Cold_Hearted_Truth wrote:

BONZAI!!!

Live and in person. B-)

by **Arlo** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 8:01 am

Greenrider wrote:Not to spoil the Matsui-as-Met party, but does anyone think that Matsui is going to be an average SS at best?

According to ESPN, his Japan numbers are .309 BA, .362 OBP, .486 Slugging

Keep in mind that those are his career numbers; Matsui's slugging, for instance, has been considerably higher than that recently (last four years: .549, .617, .496, .560). His OBP has been over that mark for seven years now...

by **HOOTIE** » Tue Dec 09, 2003 5:19 pm

One reason i heard Kaz picked NY, is he's tired of being known as little Kaz. He thought by playing in NY, like Hideki, he can change that.

GREEN I agree paying Miggy a few mil more would have been wiser. However, NYM are playing the card Seattle and NYY played. Kaz will generate extra fans, and merchandise, from NY huge asian population. So in a marketing sense, Kaz might actually earn more then Miggy.

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