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Postby Sox FANatic001 » Sat Dec 06, 2003 10:50 pm

Toss in Babe's 60 HR's when everone else was hitting 10, and uve got a great team ;-)
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Postby blankman » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:10 am

Jivedude wrote:
blankman wrote:
Jivedude wrote:
mikcou wrote:
Jivedude wrote:I'll take Charlie Radbourn's 59 Wins, 441 Ks, 1.38 ERA, and 1 Save back in 1884. He also pitched 678.7 innings that year! What a workhorse!


wow so many innings....


Yep! He started 73 games that season and finished all of them!


OMG 8-o 8-o 678 innings! 8-o 8-o

Did that ruin the rest of his career? Or did he somehow keep that up?


http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/radboch01.shtml


Wow. 8-o thanks
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Postby BigLebowski » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:41 am

Wouldn't we all like a pitcher with 441 SO in a season?
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Re: best fantasy season ever (roto, 1880s style)

Postby ramble2 » Sun Dec 07, 2003 12:49 am

Arlo wrote:The recent thread asking about the best fantasy season ever got me thinking...

How about Monte Ward's 1882 campaign? 19 wins, a 2.59 era, and best of all ... 1 save. Ok, not quite Gagne's mark, but considering that his was the only save in the NL that year ... roto dynamite! :-D


I'm not certain, but pretty sure that this is the same John Montgomery Ward that started the department store Montgomery Ward's.

And Radbourn. Wow!
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Postby joshheines » Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:01 am

Tough to beat Radbourn's year from a fantasy perspective. A couple other great years from the offensive side of things.

Billy Hamilton in 1894: 192 Runs, 4 HR, 87 RBI, 98 SB, .404 AVG
Hugh Duffy in 1894: 160 Runs, 18 HR, 145 RBI, 48 SB, .440 AVG
Ty Cobb in 1911: 147 Runs, 8 HR, 127 RBI, 83 SB, .420 AVG
George Sisler in 1920: 137 Runs, 19 HR, 122 RBI, 42 SB, .407 AVG
For those who like position scarcity . . .
Rogers Hornsby in 1925: 133 Runs, 39 HR, 143 RBI, 5 SB, .403 AVG (It's like Jeff Kent on steroids)
And of course . . .
The Bambino in 1921: 177 Runs, 59 HR, 171 RBI, 17 SB, .378 AVG

As good as the Babe was in '21, it would be tough to pass on Cobb in '11 and Hamilton in 1894. Nearly 200 runs, nearly 100 RBI, nearly 100 SB, and a .400 AVG. WOW.
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Postby Madison » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:15 am

Jivedude wrote:I'll take Charlie Radbourn's 59 Wins, 441 Ks, 1.38 ERA, and 1 Save back in 1884. He also pitched 678.7 innings that year! What a workhorse!


678 innings and a 1.38 era?! 8-o 8-o 8-o
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Dec 07, 2003 2:53 am

What the hell is wrong with pitchers these days? Back then a guy could throw 73 CG's, get 441 K's, and it had no effect on him. And that ERA??? WOW! It's not like they had advanced techniques to find the optimal delivery. How did guys like this stay healthy????? I think some research should be done so we can 'breed' more these super pitchers of baseball's past.
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Postby LBJackal » Sun Dec 07, 2003 4:19 am

Did some quick research, and if Eric Gagne pitched that many innings, according to 2003 average K/IP, he'd have had 1,133 K's 8-o and Radbourn pitched 2/3 of his teams total IP. That's just amazing. Equivalent to 972 IP these days 8-o if gagne pitched 2/3 of the Dodgers IP next year then.................OK that's enough, I'll stop. I'm just amazed.
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Postby DK » Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:49 pm

LBJackal wrote:Did some quick research, and if Eric Gagne pitched that many innings, according to 2003 average K/IP, he'd have had 1,133 K's 8-o and Radbourn pitched 2/3 of his teams total IP. That's just amazing. Equivalent to 972 IP these days 8-o if gagne pitched 2/3 of the Dodgers IP next year then.................OK that's enough, I'll stop. I'm just amazed.


Of course, he'd probably tire out around 1,000. :D
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:35 pm

All this talk about the high number of innings a pitcher pitched....and not even one Dusty comment..... :-°


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