liriano and keeper leagues

[BitterDodgerFan]

he's not on any lists this year since he won't be pitching so im having a hard time judging where liriano should go in keeper drafts. anyone seen where he goes in keeper drafts this year? i got him around 200 rank. also, when is he likely to pitch again?

[Old_Style]

I don't know where he should be drafted in keeper leagues. I'm sure that he will be up and running at the beginning of next season.

[AcidRock23]

I dunno, I am not confident that the 'he' that pitches in '08 will be the same guy who was pitching last year.

[05worldserieschamps]

Yeah, i wouldnt take him. Its not a good thing that he has injury problems. Thats one reason his stats were so good last year, he threw a slider every time. I wouldnt take a guy who has the ability and chance to be injured like this.

[Art Vandelay]

In a 12 team dynasty league (or keeper league where you get to keep enough players that he may actually make the cut), I would definitely not take him before the 20th round, and probably not before the 22nd or 23rd.

[Surfs up]

Word is he'll be pitching winter ball. TJ surgery has come a long way in the last few years. Hes young and strong. I believe he comes back very close to his numbers in 2008.

[sportsguy138]

In a 12 team dynasty league (or keeper league where you get to keep enough players that he may actually make the cut), I would definitely not take him before the 20th round, and probably not before the 22nd or 23rd.

I strongly disagree with this. Why wouldn't you take a chance of him coming back next year and him being an ace? I like him in late teen rounds, around 18/19. I drafted him in a dynasty league around 18 I think. It's not like you're drafting a lot of talent at that position anyways. He won't pitch for this year, but this is a low risk high reward type thing. If he ends up not doing well, then at least you didn't give up a huge pick for him. And if he does, then that's a great pick.

From what I've seen, TJ surgery's have been better than worst in the past. I have confidence in this kid coming back strong for next year.

[BGbootha]

In a 12 team dynasty league (or keeper league where you get to keep enough players that he may actually make the cut), I would definitely not take him before the 20th round, and probably not before the 22nd or 23rd.

I strongly disagree with this. Why wouldn't you take a chance of him coming back next year and him being an ace? I like him in late teen rounds, around 18/19. I drafted him in a dynasty league around 18 I think. It's not like you're drafting a lot of talent at that position anyways. He won't pitch for this year, but this is a low risk high reward type thing. If he ends up not doing well, then at least you didn't give up a huge pick for him. And if he does, then that's a great pick.

From what I've seen, TJ surgery's have been better than worst in the past. I have confidence in this kid coming back strong for next year.

While i agree with this for some formats, he just isn't worth it, if the format is something where you only keep 5 or so players, he isn't worth the risk.

[Barry was framed]

Depends on your roster size. If you have the space to stow him away all season, he's worth the risk.

[dooz]

In a 12 team dynasty league (or keeper league where you get to keep enough players that he may actually make the cut), I would definitely not take him before the 20th round, and probably not before the 22nd or 23rd.

I strongly disagree with this. Why wouldn't you take a chance of him coming back next year and him being an ace? I like him in late teen rounds, around 18/19. I drafted him in a dynasty league around 18 I think. It's not like you're drafting a lot of talent at that position anyways. He won't pitch for this year, but this is a low risk high reward type thing. If he ends up not doing well, then at least you didn't give up a huge pick for him. And if he does, then that's a great pick.

From what I've seen, TJ surgery's have been better than worst in the past. I have confidence in this kid coming back strong for next year.

While i agree with this for some formats, he just isn't worth it, if the format is something where you only keep 5 or so players, he isn't worth the risk.

I agree with this. In a dynasty, he has value. We only keep 6 and 8 in my two keeper leagues so he little to no value because he won't be in the top 6 or 8 and he adds no value this year. I'm not sure, but I don't think anyone comes back that fast from TJ surgery.

I feel bad for the kid, he played half a season with a lot of success and is now rehabbing his arm at the age of 19. He could of have been insane, now, who knows?