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Postby jwhands » Fri Mar 16, 2007 6:34 pm

If Japan's league is worse than AAA, then explain why they did a lot better than the US in the WBC????

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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sat Mar 17, 2007 9:23 am

If Japan's league is worse than AAA, then explain why they did a lot better than the US in the WBC????


1. The Japan WBC team had plenty of Major Leaguers. (ichiro, ect)
2. The US team was weak. Hardly anyone played that was good, and the US looked at the whole tourney as just a scrimmage. Japan took it more seriously.
3. Japan plays the game alot different than the US. For example, more breaking balls, which would be tougher to adjust to, but that dosen't make them better.

Besides, I think if we put together an All Star prospect team, it would succeed in a tounrament like that. Look at Spring Training. Some of the most dominating players are prospects or minor leaguers.
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Postby thedude » Sat Mar 17, 2007 12:13 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:Though I dont think it is smart. The Japan leagues talent is probably comparable or even worst than AAA.


The JPL is more like AAAA. There are a few guys who would be superstars in the US. A few who would be above average. The rest are average MLB talent or would career minor leaguers. The talent level over their is kinda like where US baseball was 110 years ago.
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Postby 05worldserieschamps » Sat Mar 17, 2007 5:38 pm

The JPL is more like AAAA. There are a few guys who would be superstars in the US. A few who would be above average. The rest are average MLB talent or would career minor leaguers. The talent level over their is kinda like where US baseball was 110 years ago.


I'd say thats a fair assesment. Its just hard to indentify the Stars because of the weakness of the pitching.
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Postby jwhands » Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:54 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:
The JPL is more like AAAA. There are a few guys who would be superstars in the US. A few who would be above average. The rest are average MLB talent or would career minor leaguers. The talent level over their is kinda like where US baseball was 110 years ago.


I'd say thats a fair assesment. Its just hard to indentify the Stars because of the weakness of the pitching.


This is a very closed minded look at foreign leagues. I'm sure this is the same analogy with US born players and the NBA vs players oversees (i.e. Euroleague). Somehow the NBA market is now overwhelmed with superior foreign talent.

BTW, were you in the locker room when you heard the US teaming talking about the WBC like it was a scrimmage??? Some very isocentric point of views IMO.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:08 pm

jwhands wrote:
05worldserieschamps wrote:
The JPL is more like AAAA. There are a few guys who would be superstars in the US. A few who would be above average. The rest are average MLB talent or would career minor leaguers. The talent level over their is kinda like where US baseball was 110 years ago.


I'd say thats a fair assesment. Its just hard to indentify the Stars because of the weakness of the pitching.


This is a very closed minded look at foreign leagues. I'm sure this is the same analogy with US born players and the NBA vs players oversees (i.e. Euroleague). Somehow the NBA market is now overwhelmed with superior foreign talent.

BTW, were you in the locker room when you heard the US teaming talking about the WBC like it was a scrimmage??? Some very isocentric point of views IMO.


Point is Japanese players starts ST 1 month before MLB. Scrimmage or not the US players weren't prepared at the time. I agree Japanese league is better than AAA but to say it's equivalent of the MLB is rediculous.

Now I'm against having 10 year pros named "rookie" of the year like Matsui had a shot to do a couple years ago. But can we continue with this mock?
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Postby thedude » Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:43 pm

jwhands wrote:
05worldserieschamps wrote:
The JPL is more like AAAA. There are a few guys who would be superstars in the US. A few who would be above average. The rest are average MLB talent or would career minor leaguers. The talent level over their is kinda like where US baseball was 110 years ago.


I'd say thats a fair assesment. Its just hard to indentify the Stars because of the weakness of the pitching.


This is a very closed minded look at foreign leagues. I'm sure this is the same analogy with US born players and the NBA vs players oversees (i.e. Euroleague). Somehow the NBA market is now overwhelmed with superior foreign talent.

BTW, were you in the locker room when you heard the US teaming talking about the WBC like it was a scrimmage??? Some very isocentric point of views IMO.

I simply pointed out that the Japanese league's talent is somewhere between the Major leagues and triple A. I noted that the top players in Japan would still be top players in MLB.

However a lot of the players in the JPL would not make major league rosters, which is can seen as true since many JPL teams start players who were journeymen in MLB.

There are many foreign born players in the NBA, but a lot of the players in European leagues wouldn't make an NBA roster.
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Postby Is_it_the_shoes? » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:53 pm

Why are people bothering to defend the US. Its not like they lost to Japan in the Finals...there were other teams still better than the US.
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Postby boston fan » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:27 pm

this thread migt as well be locked. It was a minor league mock but wecouldn't even get pass the second pick. It urned into a debate. Just as a last word it was a minor league mock so only minor league players could be drafted. no matter how good the japan leagues are.
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