Josh Kinney is nice to stash on DL. And there has to be better bullpen arms on the WW. Give me at least 20 names. Stanton sound good, closer candidate.
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PlayingWithFire wrote:Josh Kinney is nice to stash on DL. And there has to be better bullpen arms on the WW. Give me at least 20 names. Stanton sound good, closer candidate.
I'll look and see but its a VEEEEEEERY Deep league
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PlayingWithFire wrote:Josh Kinney is nice to stash on DL. And there has to be better bullpen arms on the WW. Give me at least 20 names. Stanton sound good, closer candidate.
I'll look and see but its a VEEEEEEERY Deep league
trust me. I'm in one that's deeper. You give me a list of guys and I'll tell you who to watch. A couple long shots off the top of my head
Al Reyes-was good before he hurt himself. He's back now and so far in 4 ST innings look good. Will probably get a end of the game role as a setup man or closer with the D-Rays
Chin-Hui Tsao-former Rockies savior now with the Dodgers, velocity is back, control has been good, that LA Dodgers pen is very good so a good role might be hard to come by but the dude has just as much talent as Jonathan Broxton. Maybe more had he not suffered the injury with the rotator cuff.
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Darren Oliver-effective last year
Jason Frasor-potential setup guy. I don't trust Accardo
Julian Tavarez-potential closer? Why is he on the WW in such a DEEP league?
Gary Majewski-good pitcher if injury behind him
Jeremy Accardo-another setup guy candidate, see Frasor above
Neal Cotts-see Neal Cotts 2005
Luis Ayala-solid reliever, won't be ready for opening day however
Juan Salas-closer candidate
Tom Matsny-he got a couple saves last year and the Cleveland closer set in stone is???
That's A LOT of quality bullpen arms on the WW.
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Interesting list but Im gonna argue for the sake of argument.
As Ive said b4 I dont care about Torres(as I dont see him closing the whole year)My concern is MR(Not just holds but guys with good Ks, era & whip. Ofcourse I'll need a few extra svs, so guys like MStanton etc...come in handy)
#1 as I said AReyes is N/A on Yahoo(Perhaps I could watch for him if he makes TBay). And Oh yes I picked up CTsao. I remember he was a pretty good prospect 2-3yrs back but it was always the Coors issue & then injuries. So Im happy with that suggestion. Thx its worth a shot.
#2 Chad Billingsley - Is he or will he be the real deal. Not all scouts agree on this.
Now your list:
Darren Oliver-effective last year - yes but never really b4
Jason Frasor-potential setup guy. I don't trust Accardo.
I dont trust either of them. BLeague, while hurting right now is the best setup guy there(and potential closer in the future) Both Frasor & Accardo have wicked stuff but r wildly inconsistant.
Julian Tavarez-potential closer? Why is he on the WW in such a DEEP league?
That Boston bullpen is very iffy this year. Tavarez has never really been a great pitcher and was horrible last yr(against the big boys in the AL). Whether that was the change to SP or not I dont know 4sure. The few svs he MIGHT get me aint worth the hit to my era/whip
Gary Majewski-good pitcher if injury behind him.
Yeah hes average but Id like more Ks from my MR.
Jeremy Accardo-another setup guy candidate, see Frasor above
Neal Cotts-see Neal Cotts 2005.
Yes this is true but that Cubs bullpen is loaded(with what I dont know yet). Hes definitely a wait and see
Luis Ayala-I agree solid reliever, whose coming off major arm surgery & rehab. I think Id have to wait on him. What are your thoughts on RWagner as a potential sleeper?
Juan Salas- Im intrigued by him. Hows he done this spring.
Tom Matsny - I dont see him doing much for me. Alot of shared holds on that team. As for Svs Borowski seems to be the clear guy atleast for the first couple mths. Hernandez & Cabrera seem next up. As for Matsny I never considered him much of a prospect when he was with the Jays(who i follow to the Tee)& his era/whip is scary. He went on a bit of run last year when Indians were out of it.
Again I appreciate your suggestions(& future ones too) but I want to get more answers b4 hitting the accept button.
TX
Paul
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powenM wrote:Interesting list but Im gonna argue for the sake of argument.
As Ive said b4 I dont care about Torres(as I dont see him closing the whole year)My concern is MR(Not just holds but guys with good Ks, era & whip. Ofcourse I'll need a few extra svs, so guys like MStanton etc...come in handy)
#1 as I said AReyes is N/A on Yahoo(Perhaps I could watch for him if he makes TBay). And Oh yes I picked up CTsao. I remember he was a pretty good prospect 2-3yrs back but it was always the Coors issue & then injuries. So Im happy with that suggestion. Thx its worth a shot.
I'd pick up Reyes way before I pick up Tsao, all Reyes needs to do is stay healthy, Tsao has pretty steep competition to make the team. I'd say Reyes has a 90% chance of making the team to open the year and Tsao is probably around 50% maybe less. And Al Reyes has a better role to get holds. And he was pretty good the last time he pitched in the majors.
#2 Chad Billingsley - Is he or will he be the real deal. Not all scouts agree on this.
again, if you want to be patient with the deal, go ahead. I don't see anything wrong with the deal but I don't see a huge gain either. It's a fair deal if you want to dump your now for your future. Mulder is trash either way.
Now your list:
Darren Oliver-effective last year - yes but never really b4-Was never a RP before Jason Frasor-potential setup guy. I don't trust Accardo. I dont trust either of them. BLeague, while hurting right now is the best setup guy there(and potential closer in the future) Both Frasor & Accardo have wicked stuff but r wildly inconsistant. Brandon League has problem this spring and will not open the year with them Julian Tavarez-potential closer? Why is he on the WW in such a DEEP league? That Boston bullpen is very iffy this year. Tavarez has never really been a great pitcher and was horrible last yr(against the big boys in the AL). Whether that was the change to SP or not I dont know 4sure. The few svs he MIGHT get me aint worth the hit to my era/whipThe competition sucks ass. and in a 20 teams league he's worth a shot. Definitely Gary Majewski-good pitcher if injury behind him. Yeah hes average but Id like more Ks from my MR.fair enough Jeremy Accardo-another setup guy candidate, see Frasor above Neal Cotts-see Neal Cotts 2005. Yes this is true but that Cubs bullpen is loaded(with what I dont know yet). Hes definitely a wait and see Luis Ayala-I agree solid reliever, whose coming off major arm surgery & rehab. I think Id have to wait on him. What are your thoughts on RWagner as a potential sleeper?Ryan Wagner sucks and his arm is blew out. Don't just see the name Wagner and think dominant. Juan Salas- Im intrigued by him. Hows he done this spring.you can look for yourself but 3ip 2h 1er 1bb 1k Tom Matsny - I dont see him doing much for me. Alot of shared holds on that team. As for Svs Borowski seems to be the clear guy atleast for the first couple mths. Hernandez & Cabrera seem next up. As for Matsny I never considered him much of a prospect when he was with the Jays(who i follow to the Tee)& his era/whip is scary. He went on a bit of run last year when Indians were out of it.Can really argue, just saying he's a viable name
Again I appreciate your suggestions(& future ones too) but I want to get more answers b4 hitting the accept button.
TX Paul
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