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by **thedude** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:42 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:this also isnt 1970

Just pointing out that steals and OBP are not mutually exclusive.

by **Tavish** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:58 pm

thedude wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:this also isnt 1970

Just pointing out that steals and OBP are not mutually exclusive.

Not mutually exclusive, but closely tied together. Only person I can think of in the 15-20 year that had a .320 or lower OBP and made 50 steals was Vince Coleman when he was with the Royals. I'm sure there have been some others but it is pretty rare in higher run scoring environments.

by **Tavish** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:05 pm

Did some quick research so it still might not be an all-inclusive list, but Pods, Womack and Crawford accomplished it once each. That's it in the last 15 years. Pretty rare feat.

by **j24jags** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:03 pm

Sorry but these days nobody has the raw speed to steal 50 bags besides Reyes/Pierre/Hanley/Crawford/Gathright/Freel/Pods/Sori/Chone/Taveras and maybe just a couple others.

If I'm not mistaken Barfield will have to lead off, hit .325 and become slightly faster in order to steal 50. 25 seems much much more likely.

by **pat1999** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 10:11 pm

maybe if that 50 includes sb drills in practice..

by **The Loveable Losers** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:33 pm

I'm in the best health of my life and I'm going to make 50 more posts before bed tonight. ::rolleyes::

I'll believe it when I see it. Who does he think he is? Willie Mays Hayes? :-b

by **Kingctb27** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:29 am

by **The Cow** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:45 am

Well the Indians as a team had 78 stolen base attempts last year. Of course some of that has to do with a lack of team speed, but some of it is due to Wedge. I just don't see Barfield stealing 50, to steal 50 bags at an 80% clip the Barfield would have to add 63 stolen base attempts to the ledger. I just don't see it happening. 25 SBs is a more realistic expectation for Barfield.

The Cow

by **Ender** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 12:58 am

godallahstar wrote:didn't rickie weeks hitting coach once say he was a 40 homer guy?

meh.

Yeah he did, unlike SB's power comes later though so harder to judge that one just yet (my money is on 30 HR's tops though).

by **davidmarver** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 2:05 am

thedude wrote:
Tavish wrote:He had better figure out a way to get on base at a better clip than .320.

That didn't stop lou brock.

True, but Barfield's no Lou Brock, and this isn't the 1960's. Barfield's a first-pitch swinger and should hit 9th this season; no way he gets 50.

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