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Postby Amazinz » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:12 pm

I am not a big fan of Maher but if you're asking if I have a double standard, no I don't. I don't have a problem with Maher saying what he does.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:17 pm

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Art Vandelay wrote:What about the fact that "politically correct" is a ridiculous made up term?


I agree with that completely; it transcends definition. But that's not really the point I'm going for with Amazinz... if Ann Coulter is admirable for her so-called war on "political correctness" then, by that rationale, shouldn't Bill Maher be equally admirable? Or is this a perfect example of how the definition of political correctness is truly based on nothing other than the ideology of the definer?


Yeah, I wasn't really trying to make a point, especially in relation to the discussion between you and Amazinz...it just sticks in my craw when I hear people talk about "politically correct" or "the PC police," etc...it really drives me crazy.
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Postby Amazinz » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:20 pm

The term Political Correctness has come to have a distinct meaning and it's a definite trend in our society. Also, I never said Coulture was admirable.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:36 pm

Well I'm not really trying to make a statement or anything, but I think the point is really that people can say what they want. It is a free country and what pisses off some people is perfectly reasonable to the next. Should freedom of speech include a license to offend? I say it does.

As for political correctness, I think ideology plays a part in its definition. Most people can probably agree when political correctness goes to far, or when someone says some blatantly either offensive for the sake of being offensive, or completely ridiculous for the sake of not offending anyone.

And in opinion, it can potentially go too far either way, so it's usually not worth it to squabble over definitions or the things someone says to sell more books or get more viewers.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:41 pm

"Political correctness" is a great bogeyman for people who are scared to death of opening themselves up to empathy and admitting they could work harder at being worthwhile human beings. In lots of circumstances, offending people DOES matter and IS important to avoid.

People checking their tongue because they are afraid of offending does absolutely no good if they continue to think of others in the terms that they are afraid to say out loud. I don't think people should ever have to censor themselves (with very few exceptions), and when people do so only because they are afraid of what others may think of what they say, they are setting discourse back decades.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:00 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:"Political correctness" is a great bogeyman for people who are scared to death of opening themselves up to empathy and admitting they could work harder at being worthwhile human beings. In lots of circumstances, offending people DOES matter and IS important to avoid.

People checking their tongue because they are afraid of offending does absolutely no good if they continue to think of others in the terms that they are afraid to say out loud. I don't think people should ever have to censor themselves (with very few exceptions), and when people do so only because they are afraid of what others may think of what they say, they are setting discourse back decades.


I think that's an excellent point; and for the fun of debate, I would argue that, sociologically speaking, ignorance will exist in our society no matter what... but is it better left thought or spoken out loud?
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:33 pm

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acsguitar wrote:I think she'd be good in a really low class porn movie


I'd subscribe to Cinemax for that.


I'm talking REAL low class porn the kinda where their eyes bug out if you know what I'm saying
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Postby knapplc » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:34 pm

acsguitar wrote:
Coppermine wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I think she'd be good in a really low class porn movie


I'd subscribe to Cinemax for that.


I'm talking REAL low class porn the kinda where their eyes bug out if you know what I'm saying



I'm happy to report that I do not. 8-o :-o
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:38 pm

knapplc wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
Coppermine wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I think she'd be good in a really low class porn movie


I'd subscribe to Cinemax for that.


I'm talking REAL low class porn the kinda where their eyes bug out if you know what I'm saying



I'm happy to report that I do not. 8-o :-o


Dan Lambskin would know what I'm talking about maybee coppermine
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:00 pm

acsguitar wrote:
knapplc wrote:
acsguitar wrote:
Coppermine wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I think she'd be good in a really low class porn movie


I'd subscribe to Cinemax for that.


I'm talking REAL low class porn the kinda where their eyes bug out if you know what I'm saying



I'm happy to report that I do not. 8-o :-o


Dan Lambskin would know what I'm talking about maybee coppermine


Yeah, it's the kind of porn with this guy:

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