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Postby MattyIce19 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:29 am

Can someone logically explain to me how Derek Jeter won the AL Hank Aaron award, but got snuffed of the MVP award... winning the Hank Aaron award establishes that Jeter was a better hitter than Morneau in 06, and his fielding performance FAR surpassed the 1B... Jeter kept his team in playoff contention all year while injuries plagued the Yankees line-up, while Morneau had Mauer in front of him, as well as Cuddyer and Hunter... isnt it clear that Jeter was more valuable all around, especially to his team... I just don't get it...
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Postby j24jags » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:42 am

You don't want to use lineups in your argument.

Yanks had 3 guys over .300 (Jeter, Cano, Abreu/Matsui=1 Combined)
3 over 100 Runs
2 at 35 HR or more (Not Jeter)
4 Guys with 100 RBIs (Jeter is one)
2 Guys with 25 SB (Jeter + Damon)

Twins had 3 over .300 (Mauer, Morneau, Bartlett/Tyner=1 Combined)
1 Over 100 (Morneau was 2nd with 97)
2 Guys with over 25 HRs (Morneau, Hunter)
4 Guys with over 50 RBIs (Morneau led by far with 130)
1 With 25+ SBs

The fact that Morneau drove in over 17% of his team's runs is amazing.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Mar 03, 2007 2:57 am

Are we really going to have an MVP argument in March? What can possibly be added to the debate that wasn't mentioned last fall?
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Postby orange12 » Sat Mar 03, 2007 6:26 am

Well this thread is only about four months late.

MattyIce, if you check the MVP discussions from last year, it'll become clear that you're pretty much preaching to the choir on this forum. I think the majority of people here disagreed with Morneau winning on the grounds that either Jeter meant more to an injury depleted Yankee team or Mauer and Santana were more valuable than Morneau to begin with... etc, etc.
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Postby Pirates4Life » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:00 pm

orange12 wrote:Well this thread is only about four months late.

MattyIce, if you check the MVP discussions from last year, it'll become clear that you're pretty much preaching to the choir on this forum. I think the majority of people here disagreed with Morneau winning on the grounds that either Jeter meant more to an injury depleted Yankee team or Mauer and Santana were more valuable than Morneau to begin with... etc, etc.


And just like last year, an "injury-depleted" Yankee team is still better than just about any lineup in baseball. You see, most teams have to get by with a couple superstars, some pretty good players, and some role players. Who in their right mind will feel sorry for the Yankees being forced to field a nomal lineup instead of a $200 million all-star team?
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Postby WebHamster » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:01 pm

We have been there and done that with this topic. ;-)
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