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Postby cordscords » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:10 am

This is the year. He's going to put it all together, and I'm definitley targeting him ;-D
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Postby walkoffblast » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:36 am

They might be close in some things but the simple reason no one is biting on Harden vs Bonderman is that if you combine Harden's IP the last 2 years it is barely over Bonderman's career low IP and does not beat his total IP in each of the last three years. Injured pitchers that are great when healthy kill fantasy season more than they make them.
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Postby StlSluggers » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:27 am

walkoffblast wrote:They might be close in some things but the simple reason no one is biting on Harden vs Bonderman is that if you combine Harden's IP the last 2 years it is barely over Bonderman's career low IP and does not beat his total IP in each of the last three years. Injured pitchers that are great when healthy kill fantasy season more than they make them.

My point with comparing the two is that everyone thinks that Harden is an automatic stud if he can stay healthy. Bonderman is very close to Harden in many respects, but he's a question mark in the eyes of many despite having pitched in more innings.

It's just interesting, that's all.
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Postby RynMan » Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:38 am

StlSluggers wrote:
walkoffblast wrote:They might be close in some things but the simple reason no one is biting on Harden vs Bonderman is that if you combine Harden's IP the last 2 years it is barely over Bonderman's career low IP and does not beat his total IP in each of the last three years. Injured pitchers that are great when healthy kill fantasy season more than they make them.

My point with comparing the two is that everyone thinks that Harden is an automatic stud if he can stay healthy. Bonderman is very close to Harden in many respects, but he's a question mark in the eyes of many despite having pitched in more innings.

It's just interesting, that's all.


I wonder if people would feel differently if he (Bonderman) had a mid to high 90's fastball.
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Postby Yoda » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:25 am

RynMan wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
walkoffblast wrote:They might be close in some things but the simple reason no one is biting on Harden vs Bonderman is that if you combine Harden's IP the last 2 years it is barely over Bonderman's career low IP and does not beat his total IP in each of the last three years. Injured pitchers that are great when healthy kill fantasy season more than they make them.

My point with comparing the two is that everyone thinks that Harden is an automatic stud if he can stay healthy. Bonderman is very close to Harden in many respects, but he's a question mark in the eyes of many despite having pitched in more innings.

It's just interesting, that's all.


I wonder if people would feel differently if he (Bonderman) had a mid to high 90's fastball.


Probably. I think Bonderman has a chance to be a stud and maybe on the verge. However, I think he gets overrated quite a bit by his supporters. He isn't a stud yet but people pay for him like one. Reminds me of Dunn.
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Postby StlSluggers » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:30 am

Yoda wrote:Probably. I think Bonderman has a chance to be a stud and maybe on the verge. However, I think he gets overrated quite a bit by his supporters. He isn't a stud yet but people pay for him like one. Reminds me of Dunn.

That's the big difference between Bondy this year and last year. Last year, he was going signficantly later in drafts.
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Postby Yoda » Fri May 04, 2007 8:08 pm

Wanted to bring up this post with Haren pitching very well and Bonderman coming off a couple of rough outings but overall good numbers. They seem to be very comparable still, with Bonderman getting the edge in Ks and Haren with the edge on Ratios.
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Postby ab » Fri May 04, 2007 11:45 pm

I've read a couple articles stating that Bonderman was unlucky to the tune of at least a full point in era last year.

Did anyone see that 10-inning game with Halladay and Bonderman earlier in the year? THAT is why people like Bonderman.
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Re: Bonderman

Postby Yoda » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:40 pm

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Re: Bonderman

Postby statsman88 » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:43 pm

yeah, im thinkin about droppin bonderman in my 12 teamer, he's been absolutely awful lately
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