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Postby StlSluggers » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:16 pm

I just watched a video on CNN talking about how black America is more skeptical of Obama than white America. In fact, blacks were more likely to vote for Hillary than him.

As cited in the video, the biggest hurdle that Obama has to overcome is his heritage. He's the son of a white woman and a black Kenyan, raised in Hawaii, and educated in exclusive schools. The video says that many blacks worry he can't relate.

I don't know why exactly, but all of this actually shocked me.
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Postby Coppermine » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:28 pm

StlSluggers wrote:I just watched a video on CNN talking about how black America is more skeptical of Obama than white America. In fact, blacks were more likely to vote for Hillary than him.

As cited in the video, the biggest hurdle that Obama has to overcome is his heritage. He's the son of a white woman and a black Kenyan, raised in Hawaii, and educated in exclusive schools. The video says that many blacks worry he can't relate.

I don't know why exactly, but all of this actually shocked me.


I've seen this; African American's don't identify Obama as African American. The reason being that he wasn't descended from American slavery. In that regard, they basically consider him an American of African decent, which is pretty much equated with being white.

And this is all interesting to me; I've heard reports on NPR and there was even a lady on Colbert talking about it. Obama also hasn't really reached out to the black community because initially he didn't think he had to. Meanwhile, Obama's support among white people is huge, so go figure.

And this is why I think sociology is so cool B-)
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Postby Yoda » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:34 pm

Who is the leader right now? Obama? Hilary or Edwards? :-?
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:36 pm

Most white people will not identify with a white politician simple because of his skin color. Why should African-Americans be any different? Sharing skin tone is a pretty loose bond.
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Postby BGbootha » Thu Mar 01, 2007 2:49 pm

what is funny, black people may not think that Obama can relate so they are going to vote for Hillary. I mean she can relate. :-o
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Postby chadlincoln » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:00 pm

Yoda wrote:Who is the leader right now? Obama? Hilary or Edwards? :-?
I would say Obama is the frontrunner, though it is way, way too early to tell. They're still in the political spring training.
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Postby StlSluggers » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:40 pm

When in doubt, it never hurts to go to the proverbial source, right? I e-mailed a former co-worker of mine who happens to be black and mostly current on politics. I asked him about this, and he said something interesting. In his opinion, Hillary is so popular simply because she's a Clinton, and Bill was very popular with blacks. He doesn't think Obama's upbringing is more important than Hillary's familial connections.

That said, he likes Obama and would probably vote for him right now.
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Postby Coppermine » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:47 pm

StlSluggers wrote:When in doubt, it never hurts to go to the proverbial source, right? I e-mailed a former co-worker of mine who happens to be black and mostly current on politics. I asked him about this, and he said something interesting. In his opinion, Hillary is so popular simply because she's a Clinton, and Bill was very popular with blacks. He doesn't think Obama's upbringing is more important than Hillary's familial connections.

That said, he likes Obama and would probably vote for him right now.


That's a good point too, it's easy to forget how popular Bill was with the black community and that will naturally rub off on Hillary. Her support is mostly going to stem from the fact that, if elected, Bill will essentially be "First Man" (what do you call him anyway??) and it would be a like a loophole around the 2-term-limit thing.

That's interesting. Based on merit alone, Obama has articulated his ideas on issues a little clearer than Hillary has; her campaign has been largely ambiguous at this point.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:52 pm

Bulworth wrote:Are you sayin' the Democratic Party don't care about the African-American community?

Isn't that OBVIOUS? You got half your kids are out of work and the other half are in jail. Do you see ANY Democrat doing anything about it? Certainly not me! So what're you gonna do, vote Republican? Come on! Come on, you're not gonna vote Republican!
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Postby BGbootha » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:57 pm

of course the black community liked bill

He played the saxophone, and liked chubby white girls. I kinda thought Bill was black.
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