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Postby RugbyD » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:25 pm

Indocrination like this makes me throw up in my mouth a little. Teaching different viewpoints is fine, but this is advocacy and its sick.

http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=022107C

L'Eggo My Lego:

By Maureen Martin : BIO| 28 Feb 2007

Some Seattle school children are being told to be skeptical of private property rights. This lesson is being taught by banning Legos.

A ban was initiated at the Hilltop Children's Center in Seattle. According to an article in the winter 2006-07 issue of "Rethinking Schools" magazine, the teachers at the private school wanted their students to learn that private property ownership is evil.

According to the article, the students had been building an elaborate "Legotown," but it was accidentally demolished. The teachers decided its destruction was an opportunity to explore "the inequities of private ownership." According to the teachers, "Our intention was to promote a contrasting set of values: collectivity, collaboration, resource-sharing, and full democratic participation."

The children were allegedly incorporating into Legotown "their assumptions about ownership and the social power it conveys." These assumptions "mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society -- a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."

They claimed as their role shaping the children's "social and political understandings of ownership and economic equity ... from a perspective of social justice."

So they first explored with the children the issue of ownership. Not all of the students shared the teachers' anathema to private property ownership. "If I buy it, I own it," one child is quoted saying. The teachers then explored with the students concepts of fairness, equity, power, and other issues over a period of several months.

At the end of that time, Legos returned to the classroom after the children agreed to several guiding principles framed by the teachers, including that "All structures are public structures" and "All structures will be standard sizes." The teachers quote the children:

"A house is good because it is a community house."

"We should have equal houses. They should be standard sizes."

"It's important to have the same amount of power as other people over your building."


story continues on related, but separate, topic re: eminent domain....
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Postby thedude » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:29 pm

What kind of wacko hippy parent would send their kid to that school?
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Postby StlSluggers » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:38 pm

"mirrored those of a class-based, capitalist society -- a society that we teachers believe to be unjust and oppressive."

Yeah, because socialism and communism don't have classes or oppression. ;-7 :-t
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:39 pm

I teach my kids using an odd system. I explain that the worse neighborhoods have more cops. The front of the room has more teacher presence. Therefore, most students gravitate towards the back.

Give the kids AA money at the start of each month. They get more AA money for better grades, regular attendance, and being on time. They can rent whichever desk they like best. They can also buy candy from me with their AA money. Or they can save up and buy a desk, keeping their AA money for other things (like homework passes, etc). It's fun.

Oh, I know I didn't talk about this article at all. I guess because it's not that interesting. My classroom is far more interesting.

Either way, kids will learn about competition. What's wrong with letting them learn about collaboration in a controlled environment? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you on the side of teaching "Intelligent Design" under the argument that the kids should learn both sides before making a decision?
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Postby StlSluggers » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:45 pm

You're giving the smart, prompt, and dependable children more money? You capitalist pig!

Everyone should have the same thing. Your classroom's seats should be arranged in a circle with you in the middle, and you should never have your back turned towards any of the kids.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:49 pm

I like reading about AA's teaching style ;-D
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Postby RugbyD » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:03 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:Either way, kids will learn about competition. What's wrong with letting them learn about collaboration in a controlled environment? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you on the side of teaching "Intelligent Design" under the argument that the kids should learn both sides before making a decision?

My post advocated teaching different viewpoints. In this situation there is deliberately only one side being taught, which to me constitutes indoctrination. The quotes sound like they're coming from the mouths of brainwashed automatons. Regarding ID, I believe I advocated teaching it as religion or philosophy subject matter b/c it was not science.
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Postby StlSluggers » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:06 pm

"We should have equal houses. They should be standard sizes."

Does this apply to people who had quintuplets?
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Postby Pedantic » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:20 pm

RugbyD wrote:
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Either way, kids will learn about competition. What's wrong with letting them learn about collaboration in a controlled environment? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't you on the side of teaching "Intelligent Design" under the argument that the kids should learn both sides before making a decision?

My post advocated teaching different viewpoints. In this situation there is deliberately only one side being taught, which to me constitutes indoctrination. The quotes sound like they're coming from the mouths of brainwashed automatons. Regarding ID, I believe I advocated teaching it as religion or philosophy subject matter b/c it was not science.


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Postby acsguitar » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:30 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
"We should have equal houses. They should be standard sizes."

Does this apply to people who had quintuplets?


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