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Postby BritSox » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:42 am

Philliebuster wrote:
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So to those of you suggesting Adam Dunn is more valuable in a league which penalizes K's, shame on you!




What this gentleman did in his league was take out AVG and add OPS which favors Dunn. K's were added (as a 6th category) which is where Dunn can hurt you. However it is still at the 1/6th rate. In this 6x6 scenario he is going to help with R,HR,RBI and OBP, K's are his only downside. He is still a top 10 OF in this format.


You're replacing one category in which he kills you with another, adding a category in which he's decent but not great, and downrating the R, HR, and RBI cats in which his value is greatest.

Also, it's OBP and not OPS.
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Postby BritSox » Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:52 am

Before I forget, some names who are really helped:

Barry Bonds (.454 OBP, 51k's)
Carlos Beltran (2.75AVG, .378OBP, and K's relatively little compared to guys with similar power)
Vlad is actually helped, whilst his OBP isn't quite as impressive as his BA, he very rarely K's.

Francouer is an obvious one who is hurt.
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Postby Philliebuster » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:05 pm

BritSox wrote:
Philliebuster wrote:
BritSox wrote:

So to those of you suggesting Adam Dunn is more valuable in a league which penalizes K's, shame on you!




What this gentleman did in his league was take out AVG and add OPS which favors Dunn. K's were added (as a 6th category) which is where Dunn can hurt you. However it is still at the 1/6th rate. In this 6x6 scenario he is going to help with R,HR,RBI and OBP, K's are his only downside. He is still a top 10 OF in this format.


You're replacing one category in which he kills you with another, adding a category in which he's decent but not great, and downrating the R, HR, and RBI cats in which his value is greatest.

Also, it's OBP and not OPS.


OBP or OPS, it doesn't really matter that much. The main point is that K's are still 1/6th of the categories (with AVG gone), which has less of an impact, therefore increasing Dunn's value when compared to a standard 5x5 league. Still top i'd say 8 OF material in this 6x6 format. He'll project at 40hr/100rbi/100run/.390 OBP which is great in 4/6 cats. I think he could cut his K rate down a bit too, perhaps 160-170.
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Postby BritSox » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:19 pm

That's an optimistic projection. He didn't break 100 R or RBI last season, and the surrounding offense projects to be worse. .390 would be his best OBP in five years. Even if he meets those targets, there's ten OF I'd rather have.
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Postby Philliebuster » Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:31 pm

BritSox wrote:That's an optimistic projection. He didn't break 100 R or RBI last season, and the surrounding offense projects to be worse. .390 would be his best OBP in five years. Even if he meets those targets, there's ten OF I'd rather have.


Not an optomistic projection, a conservative one actually, i'm having a hard time finding a site that projects him at less than 100/40/100. We will just agree to disagree.
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