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Postby BritSox » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:00 pm

If he goes .260 15-15, given the contract I've got him on in my Dynasty, I'm happy enough.
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Postby hot4tx » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:02 pm

Just a tangential question - what is PECOTA? And where do I find this?

And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Just wondering if there was minor league numbers I'm not seeing that suggest he'll hit .280-.290 range.
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Postby Yoda » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:03 pm

thedude wrote:
hot4tx wrote:Maybe Young is a poor man's Mike Cameron, who's a poor man's Beltran? ;)


As far as Quentin goes... I'm interested in his splits. Below Mendoza line against LHPs. Did anyone see him live last year? Did he just absolutely look lost against LHPs?

Just wondering if he might not be a bad OF4 platoon guy and sit him against RHPs and top pitchers.... hmmmm....


I doubt he is a poor man Mike Cameron. He has the potenial to have a .280-.290 batting average. Pecota thinks he can hit .280 with 25 homers and 20 steals.


I really doubt he will hit .280 based on what he's done in the minors. I think he will hit around .250 this year and eventually get that average up.
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Postby thedude » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:07 pm

hot4tx wrote:Just a tangential question - what is PECOTA? And where do I find this?

And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Just wondering if there was minor league numbers I'm not seeing that suggest he'll hit .280-.290 range.



http://baseballprospectus.com/

It compares player seasons to a database of thousands of past years. Last year it was the most accurate hitter projection system and the second most accurate pitcher projection system.

Don Baylor, Frank Robinson, Jose Cruz, Chet Lemon, Dwight Evans, Barry Bonds, Andruw Jones, and Jack Clark are among his comparibles.
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Postby StlSluggers » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:07 pm

hot4tx wrote:And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Here are his BA numbers from the minors:

2004 A 0.262
2005 AA 0.277
2006 AAA 0.276
2006 MLB 0.243
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Postby mak1277 » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:09 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
hot4tx wrote:And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Here are his BA numbers from the minors:

2004 A 0.262
2005 AA 0.277
2006 AAA 0.276
2006 MLB 0.243



And the .243 was in only 80 plate appearances in the majors, so it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.
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Postby thedude » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:11 pm

I see a batting average around .270 this year.
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Postby StlSluggers » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:11 pm

mak1277 wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
hot4tx wrote:And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Here are his BA numbers from the minors:

2004 A 0.262
2005 AA 0.277
2006 AAA 0.276
2006 MLB 0.243



And the .243 was in only 80 plate appearances in the majors, so it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Of course. He'd mentioned it in his last paragraph, so I figured he'd already looked into that aspect.

I can see Young doing the .270 thing. If he hits .290, I'll crap my pants.
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Postby thedude » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:15 pm

StlSluggers wrote:
mak1277 wrote:
StlSluggers wrote:
hot4tx wrote:And STLSluggers, where are you getting your numbers on Young? You said he'd kill your BA... that's why I was jokingly comparing him to a poor man's Cameron. That and the fact that he hit .243 last year.

Here are his BA numbers from the minors:

2004 A 0.262
2005 AA 0.277
2006 AAA 0.276
2006 MLB 0.243



And the .243 was in only 80 plate appearances in the majors, so it's completely irrelevant to this discussion.

Of course. He'd mentioned it in his last paragraph, so I figured he'd already looked into that aspect.

I can see Young doing the .270 thing. If he hits .290, I'll crap my pants.


So you will crap your pants if he has 145 hits instead of 135 hits (assuming 500 ABs) over a six month season? :-?
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Postby StlSluggers » Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:19 pm

thedude wrote:So you will crap your pants if he has 145 hits instead of 135 hits (assuming 500 ABs) over a six month season? :-?

In short, yes. :-D

The guy has no history of that BA whatsoever.
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