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Postby looptid » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:22 pm

05worldserieschamps wrote:If hitters knew Santana's changeup, among other great pitches, was coming, they could probably hit them about half the time.

That's like saying, if [insert pitcher's name]'s curve ball didn't curve, batters could probably hit it half the time. It's a change-up! The whole point of the pitch is deception. A pitcher's delivery, release point, and arm velocity look near identical to their fastball, but the ball travels 10-20 miles per hour slower on its way to the plate.

Santana's circle change is the best of his three, as in addition to the drastic change of speed, he gets some run inside towards right handed batters. The pitch has become so ingrained that when he carries around a ball during practice, he instinctively holds it in his circle change grip.
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Postby looptid » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:24 pm

Yoda wrote:
thedude wrote:
johnsamo wrote: hitters hate pitchers who don't walk guys.


...And yet hitters love Josh "Control" Towers...


How about Carlos "Hitman" Silva? :-D

What team wouldn't want a sinker specialist that doesn't get their fastball to sink?
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Postby Yoda » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:30 pm

looptid wrote:
05worldserieschamps wrote:If hitters knew Santana's changeup, among other great pitches, was coming, they could probably hit them about half the time.

That's like saying, if [insert pitcher's name]'s curve ball didn't curve, batters could probably hit it half the time. It's a change-up! The whole point of the pitch is deception. A pitcher's delivery, release point, and arm velocity look near identical to their fastball, but the ball travels 10-20 miles per hour slower on its way to the plate.

Santana's circle change is the best of his three, as in addition to the drastic change of speed, he gets some run inside towards right handed batters. The pitch has become so ingrained that when he carries around a ball during practice, he instinctively holds it in his circle change grip.


He throws two varieties of the pitch also.
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Postby sorgi2evans » Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:40 pm

It's already been mentioned, but Sheets has a terrific curveball.
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Postby Philliebuster » Sat Feb 24, 2007 10:01 am

Here's an interesting tidbit....

Best FASTBALL 2007....

1. Roger Clemens
2. JOHN MAINE 8-o

SNY.TV's Michael Salfino relays word from the Bill James Handbook that says only Roger Clemens was more successful (as measured by OPS against) last year with the ol' speedball.
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:17 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:Casey Fossum probably has the best Eephus pitch :-D


Yeah, the Fossum Flip. That thing has made some really good hitters look really foolish. I think I've seen it come in around 50mph a few times. If you know it's coming it's batting practice but when he slips it in there (maybe once or twice a game in the games I've watched) it completely takes hitters off-guard.

The beauty of the pitch is that hitters know that he throws it. It's in the back of their minds every time they walk to the plate. That's got to make his fastball look quite a bit faster just having that thought in your head, "is he gonna through the flip"? :)
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Postby The Loveable Losers » Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:18 pm

LukeW9027 wrote:
DevilDriver wrote:slider - liriano


Liriano has the most dominant slider ive seen. Its just flat out unhittable unless he hangs it. K-Rod has a great slider, but he tends to throw it too much and becomes predictable sometimes when I have watched him.

Another pitch I would like to nominate is the many fastballs of Carlos Zambrano. This guy throws one of the best 2-seamers in the game, a nasty cutter on the lefties, and can paint the edge with a 4-seamer at 96. Not to mention that frisbee slider that fools those righties who hit a whopping .174 against Big Z last season.


I was going to mention Bonderman and Zambrano as nominees for the best 2-seam fastball right now. Wang's is good too but he's just more hittable than those two.
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Postby Mercer Boy » Sat Mar 03, 2007 4:12 am

Just wanted to bump this up since it appears someone stole this idea from the Cafe again... :-? !+)

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Unless this is the article the OP put up about it!!! :-S
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Postby Yoda » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:55 am

Mercer Boy wrote:Just wanted to bump this up since it appears someone stole this idea from the Cafe again... :-? !+)

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Unless this is the article the OP put up about it!!! :-S


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