DevilDriver wrote:SO was he bad because he was suffering from clinical depression?
He was bad because he was too young, not ready and Royals sucked.
No, he was pretty good in 2004. He was bad in 05 due to a combination of his mental state, the continuous suckiness of the team and stupid Guy Hansen messing with his mechanic and approach.
So you are saying he wasn't rushed to the majors when he was 21 yo getting his ass kicked every day?
Looking at his history, getting rushed to MLB in 05 culminated into his breakdown.
He did fine his first season? no?
He was fine but it wasn't a full season either. Also, the pressure of doing well initially and then not coming even close to that the following season probably had a lot to do with his breakdown. But that is just my guess.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." ~George Carlin
I give this guy a lot of credit for battling through what he's been through. He obviously does have a problem, but you could give him some credit for what he's done.
I've never really known this guy, or his story. Great read, and hopefully he will have a bright future.
I think that you may have shown that you do actually have the talent, with a very apt quote.
StlSluggers wrote: The best description I ever heard of a truly gripping depression is in the Dave Matthews' song:
She feels like kicking out all the windows And setting fire to this life, She could change everything about her using colors bold and bright But all the colors mixed together to grey
I almost cry every time I hear that part of the song. He's dead-on there. You could take the most drastic steps, and in the end, life would still seem utterly meaningless, empty, and void. Looking back, I feel like I was dead for 10 years.
that's a pretty good summary.
*caution, Man Law violation forthcoming* I read The Bell Jar and Sylvia Plath's Letters when I was in college and think that she portrayed the condition very well as on one page you're sailing along on a nice trip to New York and a couple pages later things close in and you are over on the other side. I think that she also portrays it as grey. The Bell Jar made me feel pretty unhinged.
AcidRock23 wrote: *caution, Man Law violation forthcoming* I read The Bell Jar and Sylvia Plath's Letters when I was in college and think that she portrayed the condition very well as on one page you're sailing along on a nice trip to New York and a couple pages later things close in and you are over on the other side.
Jersey?
I think he will come back just fine, having matured a lot from this experience.
I've got a friend who was on a delayed flight from Orlando to KC with Greinke.....he says it was really trippy talking with him. That being said, I'm gonna slip him in a late slot in my fantasy draft. Call me a homer, but I've seen him pitch......and this kid's got talent.
"Ninety feet between bases is the closest man has ever come to perfection"
Even though he's on the Royals and his ability is tough to gauge based on 2004 achievement, Greinke's definitely worth a late round flyer.
Hopefully, even if Greinke doesn't get a rotation spot the Royals (and he) will consider pitching as a reliever. Think he'll do that? I know his medication seems to have cleared his head up, but I wonder if the extra work would ease him back into the spotlight better. Either way, I wish him success.
Weird.. my friend and i were just talking about Greinke yesterday and how he had some serious mental issuse.
My friend played baseball with Greinke and said how he would hate talking to people and always want to be by himself, on road trips he usually got his own hotel room and wouldnt have a roommate.
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