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Postby wrveres » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:21 pm

shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why baseball is really falling behind the NFL.


The Brewers are not an accurate representation of what is going on in baseball.



hmm, they are close though
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Postby Guest » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:45 pm

shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why baseball is really falling behind the NFL.


The Brewers are not an accurate representation of what is going on in baseball.


Who is, the Expos?

Face it, baseball is dropping in popularity for lots of reasons, one being the great imbalance between small market and large market teams.

Closing your eyes to the facts and using a few short run examples like the A's and Royals is what I expect from Selig, not the fans.
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Postby shortsavage » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:50 pm

Anonymous wrote:
shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why baseball is really falling behind the NFL.


The Brewers are not an accurate representation of what is going on in baseball.


Who is, the Expos?

Face it, baseball is dropping in popularity for lots of reasons, one being the great imbalance between small market and large market teams.

Closing your eyes to the facts and using a few short run examples like the A's and Royals is what I expect from Selig, not the fans.


Didn't the ratings for baseball go up this season? Do you mean has been dropping in popularity?

I agree that baseball is not being run as well as football.

It would be nice if caps were placed on how much a player can make. Individual salary caps could solve a lot of problems.
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Postby ramble2 » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:54 pm

grammysboy wrote:I have about $25 I can throw in, how about we get a syndicate together here in the cafe and buy the Brewers? How many will it take to get to $110 million at that rate?


This reminds me of the drive to buy the Expos:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/columns/schwarz_alan/1338567.html

And, to throw fuel to the fire, if the Brewers debacle is a result of poor management, then I'd say they are very representative of what's happening in baseball. Sounds like resistance to change is part of the problem in MIL.

I'm hopeful, though, that we are beginning to see a trend towards better management. Some teams have stopped whining and begun being creative. The next few years will be interesting to follow ...
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Postby Madison » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:11 pm

Anonymous wrote:
shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why baseball is really falling behind the NFL.


The Brewers are not an accurate representation of what is going on in baseball.


Who is, the Expos?

Face it, baseball is dropping in popularity for lots of reasons, one being the great imbalance between small market and large market teams.

Closing your eyes to the facts and using a few short run examples like the A's and Royals is what I expect from Selig, not the fans.


Hmm......interesting debate........You should register, we are always looking for knowledgeable people. :-)

Personally, I think it's awful that the Brewers will only have a payroll of $30 million next year. Even worse, half of it will come from revenue sharing. I am very happy to not be a part of that organization. Then again, if I was part of it, we'd be competitive. :-D
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Postby Arlo » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:16 pm

Madison wrote:Then again, if I was part of it, we'd be competitive. :-D

Not only that, but you'd probably move the team from Milwaukee to the state's capital! :-D
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Postby Madison » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:34 pm

Arlo wrote:
Madison wrote:Then again, if I was part of it, we'd be competitive. :-D

Not only that, but you'd probably move the team from Milwaukee to the state's capital! :-D


Whatever it would take to win! :-) ;-D
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Postby Guest » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:31 am

shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
shortsavage wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is why baseball is really falling behind the NFL.


The Brewers are not an accurate representation of what is going on in baseball.


Who is, the Expos?

Face it, baseball is dropping in popularity for lots of reasons, one being the great imbalance between small market and large market teams.

Closing your eyes to the facts and using a few short run examples like the A's and Royals is what I expect from Selig, not the fans.


Didn't the ratings for baseball go up this season? Do you mean has been dropping in popularity?

I agree that baseball is not being run as well as football.

It would be nice if caps were placed on how much a player can make. Individual salary caps could solve a lot of problems.


Ratings are flat and have been for some time.

I am talking about the simplier things that can be seen in black and white. Next spring, go down to your local park, you'll be lucky to see kids playing baseball. They have no interest in the game. Why? Because baseball has failed to market itself to them.

Watch TV, you are constantly inundated with ads from the NBA and NFL, even the NHL has done a better marketing job.

Baseball has nothing to market the way they are set up now. If I lived in Milwaukee, why would I want to attend a game? Forget the fact that I am a baseball fan, if not, what would draw me to the games? Last place year after year? Selling off of star players? Higher taxes for a bad team?

Baseball must even the playing field for all teams. Until they address this huge gap, it will always struggle in it's marketing.
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Postby shortsavage » Wed Nov 12, 2003 2:06 am

I do not fully agree. You sound like a strike bitten fan who was die hard in the first place. Baseball could be a much better product, but I think things have gone up hill in recent times.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:44 am

Anonymous wrote:Ratings are flat and have been for some time.
You might want to check your information before making blanket statements. Ratings and attendance were up from last year.
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