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Postby jay » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:19 pm

Stats at the top:
2003
95 IP, 80 H, 82/23/5 K/BB/HR, 2.37 ERA
Career
1599 IP, 1484 H, 1212/767/171 K/BB/HR, 3.94 ERA

The huge difference was obviously his drop in walks. That, coupled with less HR and more foul ball outs a the BEST pitchers park in baseball, allowed Wilson to earn a 2.37 ERA. Assuming he re-signs with the Dodgers (as ESPN.com says he will), What are his chances at repeating his success (mostly his walk rate)in 2004?
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Postby Madison » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:38 pm

He's worth a shot as long as he stays in LA and comes cheap. I wouldn't count on those numbers, but if you can get him late in the draft, or cheap enough, take the chance. I'll be looking to snag him late.
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Postby grammysboy » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:43 pm

Madison wrote:He's worth a shot as long as he stays in LA and comes cheap. I wouldn't count on those numbers, but if you can get him late in the draft, or cheap enough, take the chance. I'll be looking to snag him late.


I "churned" pitchers weekly last season looking for two-start pitchers to increase innings and stumbled upon Alvarez sometime in mid August. I had him for two starts that week and he had a W and a ND both with good numbers. I was hesitant to dump him to pick another two-start pitcher the next week, but did and he promptly lost his next start with awful numbers. He definately has some skills and as long as he is with the Dodgers, he'll be worth a late round pick or he would round out a pitching staff in an auction for a buck or two.
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Postby Area51's » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:43 pm

I had an eye on him too. Can't believe he's only 33. Seems like forever ago when he was affective w/ the white sox.

One thing about it....as walk prone as he has been over his career, he has some serious downside each start out. He can be a WHIP killer, and doesn't add that many K's. People just can't hit him, mainly because he never gives in...and a lot of his balls LOOK like strikes.

If he returns w/ the dodgers, I will surely bump him up. His home/road ERA splits last year were: 0.57 / 4.18
Batting average against home/road was: .178 / .279

Think he likes Chavez Ravine?
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Postby wrveres » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:55 pm

Area51's wrote:I Think he likes Chavez Ravine?


god I hate that Chavez.

No way Wilson sniffs last years performance...
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Postby Madison » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:04 pm

grammysboy wrote:I "churned" pitchers weekly last season looking for two-start pitchers to increase innings


Was it a H2H league or roto?
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Postby grammysboy » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:28 am

Madison wrote:
grammysboy wrote:I "churned" pitchers weekly last season looking for two-start pitchers to increase innings


Was it a H2H league or roto?


Roto, I came out of the draft with a great offensive team and no pitching. I started churning in June, found a pretty good set of pitchers I rode through mid July and started churning for two-start pitchers again. I had several weeks through August where I had 10-12 starts. My K's came up dramatically as did my wins. ERA and WHIP only stayed about the same. I was trying to catch a guy in K's and ended up dumping all my closers for two start pitchers. I let Borrowski and Beck go the same week. Managed to get Peavy and Miguel Batista with two starts that week. It was a fun strategy and really helped me focus on pitcher's performances, but left me with very few keeper pitchers for next year and no closers.
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Postby Madison » Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:51 am

grammysboy wrote:
Madison wrote:
grammysboy wrote:I "churned" pitchers weekly last season looking for two-start pitchers to increase innings


Was it a H2H league or roto?


Roto, I came out of the draft with a great offensive team and no pitching. I started churning in June, found a pretty good set of pitchers I rode through mid July and started churning for two-start pitchers again. I had several weeks through August where I had 10-12 starts. My K's came up dramatically as did my wins. ERA and WHIP only stayed about the same. I was trying to catch a guy in K's and ended up dumping all my closers for two start pitchers. I let Borrowski and Beck go the same week. Managed to get Peavy and Miguel Batista with two starts that week. It was a fun strategy and really helped me focus on pitcher's performances, but left me with very few keeper pitchers for next year and no closers.


No inning limit? I definitely prefer leagues with inning limits and roster move limits.
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Postby grammysboy » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:08 pm

No inning limit? I definitely prefer leagues with inning limits and roster move limits


We had a minimum inning limit of 900 innings which was pretty easy to get to. It does force an owner to have at least a few Starting pitchers and not all relievers.
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Postby Madison » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:20 pm

grammysboy wrote:
No inning limit? I definitely prefer leagues with inning limits and roster move limits


We had a minimum inning limit of 900 innings which was pretty easy to get to. It does force an owner to have at least a few Starting pitchers and not all relievers.


That helps ;-D . I've seen the all reliever strategy used before. I haven't seen anyone win using it, but I've seen them try.

I was actually referring to a max innings cap. Too many times I see people trying to win pitching catagories with quantity over quality. Most often, you run into that in a H2H league. If there's an inning cap, or a maximum number of roster moves allowed, then that doesn't come into play anymore. :-)
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