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Postby Yoda » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:04 pm

idealFX wrote:kirky brings up a good point that was under the radar after he hit the dl of the last time last year... However, I don't agree that they'll push him harder this year. They simply have a team full of young studs, and most likely, with him being the only good pitcher on the staff, with almost no bullpen help, I don't even think the team will win 70 games. With that in mind, he'll touch 160IP, and then shut down around early september.

he's only, what, 26? his k/9 and bb/9 improved of course, and he can only get better. the rays just dont want him turning into a 1.7 mil a year for a damaged arm, kerry wood.


He's actually 22 and will be 23 for 07.
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Postby idealFX » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:05 pm

i stand corrected... even better.
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Postby Kingctb27 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:11 pm

glcmustliveon wrote:Which pitchers aren't high risk again? I too have a lot invested, hes the only pitcher I'm keeping, he says his shoulder is 100%, so I'd have to believe him.

Johan is about the only one...
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Feb 15, 2007 8:13 pm

I think it's a little harsh to say ESPN doesn't know what they are talking about. He has rotator cuff inflammation at a very young age and this has always been the book on him. Other than extracurricular activities the only bad thing you have ever heard about Kazmir is that he does not have the frame to support his mechanics and it would lead to shoulder injuries.
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:08 pm

Amazinz wrote:I think it's a little harsh to say ESPN doesn't know what they are talking about. He has rotator cuff inflammation at a very young age and this has always been the book on him. Other than extracurricular activities the only bad thing you have ever heard about Kazmir is that he does not have the frame to support his mechanics and it would lead to shoulder injuries.


This has been blown out proportion. I have talked with Scotty, and there are reasons beyond his arm on why he did not pitch towards the end of last season. His arm is fine and he says it is stronger then it has ever been. He could have pitched last year if we needed him to.
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:15 pm

So Kazmir told you that he does not have rotator cuff inflammation? The MRI results posted in the media were false?
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Postby deerayfan072 » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:21 pm

Amazinz wrote:So Kazmir told you that he does not have rotator cuff inflammation? The MRI results posted in the media were false?


No, he did. The severity of it was being overblown. He did have inflammation, but like i said it wouldn't have shut him down normally was my point. He could have pitched through it and had we been playing for something he would have
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Postby Amazinz » Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:37 pm

OK I don't doubt that but all T.K. said was that it is a real concern. I don't think that's being overblown. Maybe it is nothing and Kazmir's new routine will alleviate the problem. But on the other hand, if the forecasts are correct and Kazmir is headed toward a serious shoulder problem, than inflammation is going to be the precursor to a tear. I'm no doctor, just basing my opinion on all of the baseball-related info I have read. Due to the way I draft pitchers it's highly unlikely I would draft someone like Kazmir at this point in his career. But if I was inclined to and you have several closely-valued options, this could be the tie-breaker.
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Postby kimchi_chigae » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:48 am

Don't mind him, deerayfan072. He's just a bitter Mets fan. :-D

I doubt the D-Rays will push Kazmir hard if there is anything remotely wrong with his shoulder. Unless, of course, they are playing meaningful games, which unfortunately isn't likely this season. The D-Rays have a wicked farm system and it looks like they could be a very good team in a couple of years. It would make no sense for them to send Kazmir out there with an injury.

Kazmir is a high risk/high reward pitcher. And If he gets injured, I'd rather have him on a DL spot than having him pull an Eric Chavez on us putting up bad numbers because of injury.
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