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Postby Transmogrifier » Mon Nov 10, 2003 8:23 pm

DK wrote:
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eftda wrote:
pkarr5000 wrote:pierre stole bags because of castillos discipline and patience at the plate. he took plenty of pitches that he could have hit yet took them and let pierre steal. if luis leaves, now that everyone knows about pierre running and there are plenty of other guys that can steal in the league, juan becomes a bust.



*gasp!*

The A's logo is back 8-o


Pkarr? Copping out early? That was supposed to be through spring. You did less than a month!!!! :-t



It just seems a little strange...
Uh oh...Red Sox Fury... 8-o :-D
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Postby wrveres » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:45 am

ukjohn wrote:
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wrveres wrote:Luis Castillo will be mentioned in every GM's plans over the next two weeks... But IMO. he ends up in STL.

Doubt it. Not that I wouldn't like to see him here but there isn't a lot of money left to spend. Everyone and their mother is a free agent next for the Cards. Plus Pujols is going to get a serious bump in pay.


yes, but Luis has said in a couple of interviews, that he would love to play with his friend, Edgar Renteria. And now STL needs a 2b ... I can honestly see it as long as the teams from the Northeast (all of them) don't get into a bidding war.

I will say that hiring Boras, actually hurt his chance of going to the STL. But then there is rumors now that he didn't actually hire Boras..

but today is the day, let the FA bidding begin...


St Louis is set to bid on pitchers. they aren't looking to do much to their lineup this offseason. They seem to be set with Hart as their 2b



No way in hell Hart is the 2B next season.

June -- 54AB -- .426BA -- .446OBP
July -- 113AB -- .257BA -- .317OBP
August -- 90AB -- .211BA -- .260OBP
September -- 39AB -- .282BA -- .275OBP

after his hot start he did nothing .... Hell he walked 12 times and k'd 64 times. He only stole 3 times in 300 AB's. Where ya gonna bat him. 8th? STL needs a leadoff hitter, and a 2B. No way La Russa starts '04 with Hart penciled in at 2B. IMO
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Postby Shitney™ » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:55 am

how about Hart's defense; i'm not saying i know jack whether he'll be there or not.. but he saved alot of runs with his defense..

there is the posssibility of a soph slump.. but there is also the poss of him getting his feet wet and improving on his offense..

as i said i dont know jack about him, but i thought i'd add to the confusion ;-D then again maybe i'm just blowing smoke :-°
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Postby ukjohn » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:59 am

I'm not just guessing that Hart will be the starter, it's fairly certain. He will be the starter. He is a great defensive 2b, and they feel they can make up for his offensive struggles with their lineup.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:31 am

ukjohn wrote:I'm not just guessing that Hart will be the starter, it's fairly certain. He will be the starter. He is a great defensive 2b, and they feel they can make up for his offensive struggles with their lineup.

Yep Hart is going to be the starter barring injury. Yes the Cards could use a leadoff hitter but they desperately need some pitching. That is the #1 target in the offseason.
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Postby ukjohn » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:47 am

2B Bo Hart (.277, 64-12 strikeout-walk ratio) -- Started off at .400-plus before leveling off. Showed more range and defensive prowess than expected and probably will be the starter next year.


The Cardinals need a 2b who can lead off, but they have bigger needs in the rotation and bullpen.
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