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Postby ttwarrior1 » Tue Feb 13, 2007 1:53 am

im high on both for some reason. Im a phily fan even and thinking why utley when i can get barfield. Im really high on him for some reason and drew as well.
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Postby EugeneStyles » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:25 am

Personally, I have Barfield rated #74, and Drew rated #77 (each may go down a bit as I tweak my projections). Both of these are higher than I expect them to go, and if you can get them in the 8th to 10th rounds, they should be good value picks.
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Postby davidmarver » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:37 am

EugeneStyles wrote:Personally, I have Barfield rated #74, and Drew rated #77 (each may go down a bit as I tweak my projections). Both of these are higher than I expect them to go, and if you can get them in the 8th to 10th rounds, they should be good value picks.

Personally, I think that's far too high for either of them. If they produce like their potential hints, they could finish at #74 and #77 this season, but drafting them there is silly.
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Postby EugeneStyles » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:43 am

well, that's based on projection. and yes, you're right, you can't necessarily draft unproven talent based on projection. So the question is, of course, whether to lower the projection, or just wait on drafting them even though they'll be at the top of your list from the 7th through 10th rounds.
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Postby davidmarver » Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:48 am

EugeneStyles wrote:well, that's based on projection. and yes, you're right, you can't necessarily draft unproven talent based on projection. So the question is, of course, whether to lower the projection, or just wait on drafting them even though they'll be at the top of your list from the 7th through 10th rounds.

Certainly the latter. I'm not opposed to the thought of Barfield and Drew finishing in the top 75, but picking them so early isn't maximizing their values.
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Postby greenandgold » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:35 am

EugeneStyles wrote:well, that's based on projection. and yes, you're right, you can't necessarily draft unproven talent based on projection. So the question is, of course, whether to lower the projection, or just wait on drafting them even though they'll be at the top of your list from the 7th through 10th rounds.


Maybe both... I would start looking for them closer to the 15th round. I have a feeling Barfield will go first by a round or more in most drafts. You might want to draft another SS as well.
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Re: where does barfield and drew from arizona go in drafts

Postby Ender » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:13 am

ttwarrior1 wrote:im high on both for some reason. Im a phily fan even and thinking why utley when i can get barfield. Im really high on him for some reason and drew as well.


Because Barfield most likely won't come anywhere close to Utley in value, even if Barfield has an oustanding year and Utley slumps all year. Barfield has teen HR power a lower realistic AVG and most likely will bat in the bottom of the lineup.
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Postby EugeneStyles » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:31 am

Oops, I just realized... one of the reasons I have those guys rated so high is that I haven't integrated my pitchers and hitters yet, so they were the #74 and #77 hitters. Since then, I've tweaked the projections a little, and they've fallen about 5-10 spots each. When pitchers go into the rankings, they'll fall another 20 or so. Everything suddenly makes a lot more sense... ;)
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Postby Doughhead » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:57 am

Two questions about these guys...

1) Where do they project to bat in their respective lineups?
2) What kind of OPS can we expect from them?
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:06 am

Doughhead wrote:Two questions about these guys...

1) Where do they project to bat in their respective lineups?
2) What kind of OPS can we expect from them?


I think Drew's going to bat 6th behind Quentin. Will see time at 5 and 7 maybe.

Barfield will bat lower, he was consistently batting 8th in a not so good Padres lineup. I'd say 8th or 9th.

Barfield was never a great prospect in the minors. While Drew has been a top 10 prospect. So I think it's fair to think Drew will hit for a better OBP and SLG. The question is whether Barfield can shorten the gap by stealing lots of bases. I don't think he can, but that's just me thinking he won't hit for a high enough average this year to be on base often.
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