Late-round sleeper SP's

[MikeD22]

this is an interesting chart. I wonder what the stats would look like if all of the crappy pitchers stats were taken out. Any pitcher who never made it to let's say, their 70th start, then we eliminate their stats. That would probably give a better idea of when do the good pitchers really start to get good and when do they start to get very good.

[The Loveable Losers]

this is an interesting chart. I wonder what the stats would look like if all of the crappy pitchers stats were taken out. Any pitcher who never made it to let's say, their 70th start, then we eliminate their stats. That would probably give a better idea of when do the good pitchers really start to get good and when do they start to get very good.

Yeah, I was going to point out something similar. What you're seeing is that pitchers that are not that good don't receive 71+ starts. As a general rule they're not given that much time in the majors while pitching that badly. The higher the number of starts goes the more and more elite the list of pitchers that had that much experience. I don't have the exact quote handy but something that I read at Baseball Prospectus indicated that pitchers don't have the same type of career growth curve that hitters have. A lot of pitchers have their best years toward the beginning of their careers and never get better than that due to injuries, being figured out, etc. Wish I had something more detailed to give there but it was just something I remember reading in the last month or so.