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by **shortsavage** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:23 am

Who do you see being the best sleeper catcher, for the 2004 season?

I was starting to get into A.J. Pierzynski, until I heard about his injury problems.

Are Victor Martinez and Joe Mauer worth gambling on?

Is Jeff Mathis close enough to the majors and good enough, to be a wise keeper league pick?

Yorvit Torealba is definately a great sleeper pick, in most leagues. However, there is no way he is going to sleep in a Bay Area based league.

Will Miguel Olivo begin to shine in 2004? Or, did his star fade significantly, when he could not snatch regular playing time away from the ancient Sandy Alomar.

Can Michael Barret consistantly put up numbers anything like the ones he was able to in the first quarter of 2002?

Will Charles Johnson's price drop a little, compared to last season, as he did not accomplish the electrifying feats expected of Coors field hitters?

No need to answer every question I just asked. I am mainly interested in hearing who you have in mind as your sleeper backstop for 2004.

by **wrveres** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:40 am

Biggest Sleeper of 2004...Adrian Beltre (THIS YEAR HE WILL BREAK OUT)!

out of chavez ravine... is that what he is breaking out of ....I laugh, if only because I have had this guy on my opening day roster for the last three years. LOL ....Now....I'll just trade for him in August.

ADRIAN BELTRE CAN SUCK MY ..............lol

As far as the question.... I am high on Torrealba, but no way he is a sleeper in the Bay Area. Don't forget Estrada. He was good enough to let Javy go, and to trade Kevin Millwood for. Funny, next year the Braves will probably have both Millwood and Estrada. The Phillies will just be stuck,...... with a chitty manager

And apparently, Piazza is a sleeper next year too.... :-)

by **eftda** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:49 am

shortsavage wrote:Yorvit Torealba is definately a great sleeper pick, in most leagues. However, there is no way he is going to sleep in a Bay Area based league.

I agree, he SHOULD have started alot more last year

shortsavage wrote:Will Charles Johnson's price drop a little, compared to last season, as he did not accomplish the electrifying feats expected of Coors field hitters?

is he still playing?

by **HOOTIE** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 12:57 am

AJ isnt a sleeper after his nice year. Millwood had to be dumped. Philly threw a bone back. Estrada is nothing. Hes already 27, and in minors in 6 leagues he never got over a 336 oba. Mauer and Mathis are prime studs in a keeper, but both likely dont come up till end of 04. CJ has always been a bad hitter. If its a keeper league, and you can stash guys, get Mauer and Mathis. If its not, i might go Martinez, who got a taste last year, and should get more playing time.

by **shortsavage** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:04 am

HOOTIE wrote:AJ isnt a sleeper after his nice year.

I will let you go hunt for the stats, as I am battling a fierce case of college homework overload syndrom, but I am pretty sure A.J.'s 2002 and 2001 numbers were not too far off from what he did in 2003, comparatively at least.

by **HOOTIE** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:41 am

shortsavage wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:AJ isnt a sleeper after his nice year.

I will let you go hunt for the stats, as I am battling a fierce case of college homework overload syndrom, but I am pretty sure A.J.'s 2002 and 2001 numbers were not too far off from what he did in 2003, comparatively at least.

01 289 7 hrs 55 rbi
02 300 6 hrs 49 rbi
02 312 11 hrs 74 rbis

Maybe so, but 312 with 74 rbis isnt really a sleeper at a horrible offensive position.

by **shortsavage** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:50 am

Well, I think A.J.'s reputation will drop him a few places on some draft sheets. I know the A's fans, in my area, hate him.

I am not saying that he is going to be a last five round guy. On the contrary, I believe he is on the brink of becoming a star fantasy catcher, however, most people would only tend to think of him as a top 10 guy. And, for a keeper league, I find his age (26) particularly attractive.

It would be interesting to see who that system that Ramble2 was using would compare him to...

by **wrveres** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:53 am

shortsavage wrote:Well, I think A.J.'s reputation will drop him a few places on some draft sheets. I know the A's fans, in my area, hate him.

I am not saying that he is going to be a last five round guy. On the contrary, I believe he is on the brink of becoming a star fantasy catcher, however, most people would only tend to think of him as a top 10 guy. And, for a keeper league, I find his age (26) particularly attractive.

It would be interesting to see who that system that Ramble2 was using would compare him to...

is he really only 26... hmm just about ripe..... Good call.

But you can't draft him cus' all of your guys are "27", savage

by **eftda** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:55 am

lol, by th way is a ripe cather 30 years old?

by **shortsavage** » Wed Oct 29, 2003 1:57 am

wrveres wrote:But you can't draft him cus' all of your guys are "27", savage

Are you reffering to Beltre, if not, I don't think I am following you.

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