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Postby cordscords » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:05 pm

After finalizing my projections for these 2, I think I would prefer Holliday by a nose.
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Postby Ender » Sat Mar 03, 2007 12:46 pm

For what its worth here are my first run projections for them...

Holliday - 108 R, 29 HR, 110 RBi, 11 SB, .303 AVG
Bay - 101 R, 32 HR, 106 RBI, 15 SB, .283 AVG

Its basically the batting average and better lineup that drives Holliday's value over Bay so I can see waiting on Bay if he's going a full round later than Holliday, I haven't really looked at ADP much yet.
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No mention of swap in BA for Holliday?

Postby ffplaya » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:17 pm

At first, didn't sound like such a big deal ... however:

Holliday hit .334 with 34 homers and 82 RBIs from the No. 4 spot last year. Batting fifth, Holliday batted .286 with six homers and 19 RBIs.

Not the end of the world, but worth mentioning especially since so many of you making a big deal about switching Bay in the BA. Do with this what you will, just an FYI.

Im still going with Holliday over Bay for what it is worth.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby Boyakasha » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:11 pm

Remember this debate at the beginning of the year? My buddy and I argued over this for a long time; I took Holliday with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round and he took Bay with the next pick. Obviously, I didn't expect as huge a gap as there is at the end of the season, but I've busted my friend's balls all year about that pick. I've turned it up lately because of how huge Holliday's been during the fantasy playoffs. ;-D
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby The Loveable Losers » Wed Sep 19, 2007 9:23 pm

Boyakasha wrote:Remember this debate at the beginning of the year? My buddy and I argued over this for a long time; I took Holliday with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round and he took Bay with the next pick. Obviously, I didn't expect as huge a gap as there is at the end of the season, but I've busted my friend's balls all year about that pick. I've turned it up lately because of how huge Holliday's been during the fantasy playoffs. ;-D


Jason Bay's knee pretty much did this argument in. I don't think he's ever going to be the fantasy force he was because the loss of speed will take a few points off the average and more importantly take away almost all of those crucial stolen bases.
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby Kingctb27 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:02 am

The Loveable Losers wrote:
Boyakasha wrote:Remember this debate at the beginning of the year? My buddy and I argued over this for a long time; I took Holliday with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round and he took Bay with the next pick. Obviously, I didn't expect as huge a gap as there is at the end of the season, but I've busted my friend's balls all year about that pick. I've turned it up lately because of how huge Holliday's been during the fantasy playoffs. ;-D


Jason Bay's knee pretty much did this argument in. I don't think he's ever going to be the fantasy force he was because the loss of speed will take a few points off the average and more importantly take away almost all of those crucial stolen bases.

The thing is, even if Bay were healthy and playing well there's no way he would be touching Holliday this year. Guys been a beast and is a first round pick next year and most likely the #1 OF taken.
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby pokerplaya » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:16 am

Kingctb27 wrote:
The Loveable Losers wrote:
Boyakasha wrote:Remember this debate at the beginning of the year? My buddy and I argued over this for a long time; I took Holliday with the 2nd pick of the 3rd round and he took Bay with the next pick. Obviously, I didn't expect as huge a gap as there is at the end of the season, but I've busted my friend's balls all year about that pick. I've turned it up lately because of how huge Holliday's been during the fantasy playoffs. ;-D


Jason Bay's knee pretty much did this argument in. I don't think he's ever going to be the fantasy force he was because the loss of speed will take a few points off the average and more importantly take away almost all of those crucial stolen bases.

The thing is, even if Bay were healthy and playing well there's no way he would be touching Holliday this year. Guys been a beast and is a first round pick next year and most likely the #1 OF taken.


I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'd still take Vlad first in the OF. Beltran too, maybe...
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:41 am

pokerplaya wrote:
I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'd still take Vlad first in the OF. Beltran too, maybe...



As long as Holliday is playing half his games in Colorado next year, he will be my #1 ranked OF going into the 08 season.
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby Yoda » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:42 am

pokerplaya wrote:I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'd still take Vlad first in the OF. Beltran too, maybe...


I think injuries are affecting Vlad this year but still, I would take Holliday before him and Beltran.
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Re: Make Your Case: Jason Bay vs. Matt Holliday

Postby djxskillz » Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:30 pm

holliday easily before vlad and beltran....the #'s speak for themselves.

1st in RBIs, Average, doubles, 4th in hr, 4th in runs and a respectable amount of steals.

Its a no brainer who I would pick as my #1 OF
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