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Who is the best 2nd baseman?

Joe Morgan
6
30%
Jackie Robinson
1
5%
Rogers Hornsby
11
55%
Eddie Collins
1
5%
Nap Lajoie
0
No votes
Ryne Sandberg
0
No votes
Frank Frisch
0
No votes
Chalie Gehringer
0
No votes
Rod Carew
1
5%
 
Total votes : 20

All-time Great 2nd baseman

Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 27, 2003 10:51 am

This should be a little better to debate than 1B. As always if you think someone should be listed that isn't let it be known.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:24 pm

Very tough... Probably Hornsby or Robinson, at first glance...
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:26 pm

I voted for Morgan. 2nd is very interesting because I could see a case for Robinson, Morgan, Hornsby, Lajoie or Collins.
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:07 pm

Are we talking in terms of "career value" or "peak value"?


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Postby LCBOY » Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:10 pm

In terms of "peak value", it's Joe Morgan. In terms of career value I'd pick Eddie Collins.

Rogers Hornsby was very much overrated. He was an awesome hitter but he sucked on defense. Also, he kept getting traded because no one could stand him and he did more things to make it harder for his teams to win.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:30 pm

LCBOY wrote:Are we talking in terms of "career value" or "peak value"?


Career value. Anyone can put up one good season. Brady Anderson hit 50 HR one year.
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:16 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:
LCBOY wrote:Are we talking in terms of "career value" or "peak value"?


Career value. Anyone can put up one good season. Brady Anderson hit 50 HR one year.

Actually "peak value' is not a player's best season but a clearly established level of peak performance. A good way to look at it is to look at a player's 2nd-5th best seasons.
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Postby DK » Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:16 pm

I went with Hornsby. He owns many 2B records.
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Postby LCBOY » Tue Oct 28, 2003 2:04 am

DK wrote:I went with Hornsby. He owns many 2B records.


And how does this prove he is the greatest 2B of all time?
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Tue Oct 28, 2003 10:51 am

LCBOY wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:
LCBOY wrote:Are we talking in terms of "career value" or "peak value"?


Career value. Anyone can put up one good season. Brady Anderson hit 50 HR one year.

Actually "peak value' is not a player's best season but a clearly established level of peak performance. A good way to look at it is to look at a player's 2nd-5th best seasons.


That still is only 4 seasons. I don't have a set rule but I think that career value and peak value should be taken into account.
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