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Postby HOOTIE » Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:27 pm

Grenade Teeth wrote:Beckett is also being helped by the fact that Schmidt was a post-season beast in 2002 and look what he did in 2003.


?????? Schmidt last year in 4 playoff games was 2-1, with a 4.25 era. He had 1 big game out of 4.

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Postby jskidder » Mon Oct 27, 2003 5:42 pm

arod
pujols
soriano
vlad
beltran
v wells
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prior
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vaszquez

in that order, but seperated by offense/pitching.
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Postby shortsavage » Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:12 pm

HOOTIE wrote:Let me be the 1st to insult everyone then. SORIANO is a top 10 keeper. 35/35 out of a 2b, who hasnt hit his peak yet. The moving to outfield is only speculation


News

The Yankees are considering a trade of Soriano due to his postseason struggles, according to Newsday. He might be back with the team and moved to right field, but the Yankees are likely to pursue an offseason move.

Analysis

Based on Soriano's monumental October struggles, it's probably a wise decision on the Yankees' part to at least consider trading him while his value is high. He's still an elite Fantasy second baseman, but he might never become the superstar many predicted.

(from CBSSportsline.com)

Take that HOOTIE and all you Soriano is a top 10 keeper fans :-)
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Postby StAlEfReNcHfRi91 » Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:22 pm

shortsavage wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Let me be the 1st to insult everyone then. SORIANO is a top 10 keeper. 35/35 out of a 2b, who hasnt hit his peak yet. The moving to outfield is only speculation


News

The Yankees are considering a trade of Soriano due to his postseason struggles, according to Newsday. He might be back with the team and moved to right field, but the Yankees are likely to pursue an offseason move.

Analysis

Based on Soriano's monumental October struggles, it's probably a wise decision on the Yankees' part to at least consider trading him while his value is high. He's still an elite Fantasy second baseman, but he might never become the superstar many predicted.

(from CBSSportsline.com)

Take that HOOTIE and all you Soriano is a top 10 keeper fans :-)



if all that is true, soriano's runs will definatly drop a bit
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Postby blankman » Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:29 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:It is funny how the post season affects rankings. Soriano sucks and everyone is down on him.


But the thing is, its not just the postseason. Look what he did in at the end of the regular season, practically nothing. Aside from a couple great opening months, he was pretty much god-awful. I'll get some stats later to back this up if I find the time.
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Postby wrveres » Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:34 pm

blankman wrote:
Pogotheostrich wrote:It is funny how the post season affects rankings. Soriano sucks and everyone is down on him.


But the thing is, its not just the postseason. Look what he did in at the end of the regular season, practically nothing. Aside from a couple great opening months, he was pretty much god-awful. I'll get some stats later to back this up if I find the time.


Nope you are right. I traded for him in one league at the end of May.. His BA was almost Adam Dunn like the rest of the way. I was actually bummed I traded for him.
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Postby shortsavage » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:18 pm

I feel a sudden sway in beliefs ;-) .
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Postby blankman » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:27 pm

shortsavage wrote:I feel a sudden sway in beliefs ;-) .


If you're talking about Soriano, I've been saying this for awhile now. The guy's head is has gotten so big (all the HR's caused this I think) and screwed up that I'm beginning to believe he's beyond repair.
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Postby shortsavage » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:32 pm

blankman wrote:
shortsavage wrote:I feel a sudden sway in beliefs ;-) .


If you're talking about Soriano, I've been saying this for awhile now. The guy's head is has gotten so big (all the HR's caused this I think) and screwed up that I'm beginning to believe he's beyond repair.


Yeah, I am not targeting you blankman. I was reffering to the silencing of the Soriano supporters.
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Postby ramble2 » Mon Oct 27, 2003 8:32 pm

I can't take credit for this, but a good friend of mine always jokes that Alfonso Soriano is this generations Juan Samuel. Who's Juan Samuel? Exactly.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/samueju01.shtml

http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/soriaal01.shtml

On Soriano's page, look at the batters he most resembles through age 24. Not a pretty sight for the long run. Given the paucity of 2nd basemen, I'd keep Soriano for next year. I'd also consider trading him for someone who looks a little more promising in the long term, like, say, a Guerrero or Prior.
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