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Postby FalcoAtL » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:21 pm

Well the Angels for one def. have more top pitching prospects. Adenhart, Arredondo and Marek to name a few.
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Postby Steve-o » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:43 pm

bigboy1234 wrote:I don't really see an arguement with any other teams system as good, but hey maybe thats just me.


No argument, huh? (I know I included a couple of guys of are not still prospects, but pretty darn close)

LAA
Wood, Brandon
Adenhart, Nick
Aybar, Erick
Rodriguez, Sean
Mathis, Jeff
Kendrick, Howie
Morales, Kendry
Weaver, Jered

Ari
Upton, Justin
Young, Chris
Gonzales, Carlos
Owings, Micah
Montero, Miguel
Torra, Matt
Quentin, Carlos
Drew, Stephen

KC
Gordon, Alex
Butler, Billy
Hochevar, Luke
Huber, Justin

LAD
Elbert, Scott
LaRoche, Andy
Kershaw, Clayton
Loney, James
DeWitt, Blake
Martin, Russell

TB
Young, Delmon
Dukes, Elijah
Longoria, Evan
Brignac, Reid
Niemann, Jeff
McGee, Jacob
Davis, Wade
Bankston, Wes
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Postby FalcoAtL » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:48 pm

My point exactly!!!!
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Postby bigboy1234 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 5:32 pm

There is no arguement, you just made my point even more when you added Drew and Quentin and Weaver and Kendrick and Morales for the D'backs and Angels. They are not prospects at all. So hey lets add BJ Upton and Kazmir for the d'rays if your adding non prospects.

If those 5 were prospects sure it would be an arguement but there not.

The Dodgers system is not nearly as good.

And please the Royals, they have no depth at all.

It's also fitting how you left Guzman, Hellickson, Talbot, and Walker for the Rays who are all very good prospects.

Like I said no arguement.
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Postby FalcoAtL » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:44 pm

LAA
Wood, Brandon
Adenhart, Nick
Aybar, Erick
Rodriguez, Sean
Mathis, Jeff
Morales, Kendry
Arredondo, Jose
Conger, Hank

These guys are better, but maybe thats just me.
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Postby bigboy1234 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:15 pm

KENDRY MORALES IS NOT A PROSPECT.

D. Young>B. Wood
E. Longoria>N. Adenhart
R. Brignac>E. Aybar
E. Dukes>S. Rodriguez
J. Niemann>J. Mathis (although Mathis is becoming underrated by people who rank prospects)
J. McGee>J. Arredondo
W. Davis>H. Conger
J. Hellickson>any other Angel prospect

Again thats not even bringing up Guzman, Talbot, and Walker.

It's pretty clear who's system is better.
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Postby FalcoAtL » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:20 pm

Neither is Delmon Young then...

I think if you take him off things are really changed for your comparisons.
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Postby bigboy1234 » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:42 pm

Definition of a prospect:

Prospect (pra spekt) - noun
Something expected; a possibility.

To be eligible for this, a player must meet the playing-time qualifications for the Rookie of the Year award, but not the service-time qualifications. That means a prospect has to have a total of fewer than 130 at-bats or 50 innings pitched in the majors.


Now I know this is a crazy thing to comprehend, but this isn't my definition I go by the rules. The rules say Young is and Morales isn't. And of course it would change if Delmon wasn't considered a prospect, then it would actually be very close. But the Devil Rays still have a ton of depth in there system.
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Postby FalcoAtL » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:45 pm

There is no need to be rude about this... Obviously I know what a prospect is. I'm not the only one that feels that Delmon is no longer a prospect. Sickels does not have him on his Drays rankings.
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Postby Steve-o » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:54 pm

FalcoAtL wrote:There is no need to be rude about this... Obviously I know what a prospect is. I'm not the only one that feels that Delmon is no longer a prospect. Sickels does not have him on his Drays rankings.


Actually, he did.

Point well taken about prospects graduating. I just think there are other systems that are almost as deep. To say that TB is clearly the best system and there is no argument for anything else is wrong, IMO.
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