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Postby Shitney™ » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:12 pm

the original poster cut out only parts of teh article..

Zimmer's old nemesis piles it on

By JIMMY GOLEN, AP Sports Writer
October 12, 2003
BOSTON (AP) -- For ex-Red Sox pitcher Bill ``Spaceman'' Lee, watching Don Zimmer go after Pedro Martinez brought back memories of his own verbal sparring with the man he dubbed ``The Gerbil.''

``Maybe it knocked some sense into him,'' Lee said in a telephone interview Sunday with The Associated Press, adding that he was impressed by Martinez. ``It's pretty hard to grab a bowling ball by the ears.''

Lee pitched for the Red Sox from 1969-78, a period that overlapped with Zimmer's 1976-80 tenure as manager. The two simply did not get along, with Zimmer refusing to speak to Lee at the end of the 1978 season and passing him over for a key start against the Yankees down the stretch.

The teams finished tied at the end of the regular season, with New York grabbing the AL East title by winning a one-game playoff on Bucky Dent's notorious homer.

Lee's antics earned him the nickname ``Spaceman,'' and since his retirement he's done little to alter his reputation. He has written several offbeat books, and he also ran for President of the United States on the ``No Guns, No Butter'' platform, saying: ``Both can kill you.''

Zimmer is now with the Yankees, who are playing the Red Sox in the AL championship series. During a bench-clearing brawl in Game 3 on Saturday, the 72-year-old bench coach lunged at Martinez.

The pitcher sidestepped Zimmer, grabbed his head and threw him to the ground.

While most involved in the fight considered it a black eye for baseball and tried to put it behind them, Lee felt no such compunction.

``What amazes me is that he didn't bounce,'' Lee said. ``I would have been sure he was full of helium.''

Even so, Lee allowed himself a moment of sympathy when Zimmer was lying on the field after the tussle.

``He's a human being,'' Lee said. ``You don't want to see him get hurt.''




not a big deal, mostly background and unimportant stuff
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Postby Lofunzo » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:14 pm

Thanks for the complete article. ;-D
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Postby Madison » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:39 pm

Yes, thanks for the complete article. ;-D
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Postby Shitney™ » Wed Oct 15, 2003 1:44 pm

i felt everyone needed to know about the "no guns no butter" platform :-)
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Postby Jivedude » Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:58 pm

The article I posted was complete. I didn't only post part of it. This last line wasn't in the article I posted.

Even so, Lee allowed himself a moment of sympathy when Zimmer was lying on the field after the tussle.

``He's a human being,'' Lee said. ``You don't want to see him get hurt.''
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Postby wrveres » Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:23 pm

Jivedude wrote:The article I posted was complete. I didn't only post part of it. This last line wasn't in the article I posted.

Even so, Lee allowed himself a moment of sympathy when Zimmer was lying on the field after the tussle.

``He's a human being,'' Lee said. ``You don't want to see him get hurt.''


That is called journalism. a "reporter" takes a story. Cut and pastes to fit their point or needs then passes it off to you as fact.

Not to venture off subject, But if that same "reporter" has been dissed by a player for some "15" years. How honest of a story do you think we will get ... IE. Barry.. :-)
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Postby DK » Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:03 pm

Lofunzo wrote:They actually had a Tale-of-the-Tape in my local paper and listed Pedro as having a 3 lb advantage on Zimmer. I found it very hard to believe.



yeah, i get that paper too...there's no way zimmer is only 177.
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Postby Lofunzo » Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:20 am

DK wrote:
Lofunzo wrote:They actually had a Tale-of-the-Tape in my local paper and listed Pedro as having a 3 lb advantage on Zimmer. I found it very hard to believe.



yeah, i get that paper too...there's no way zimmer is only 177.


The Newark Star Ledger? Great sports page but they are bad at math. :-D

Maybe he is 4'11" and 177 lbs. :-D
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Postby DK » Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:02 pm

yeah, you can tell nobody took algebra 101 in college.

or logic 101 either...:D
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