wrveres wrote:Now there is a class act ... Rocker .. Talk about Karma kicking someone ..He got what he deserves... a loss of "Talent"
Maybe Gagne is actually an alien and stole Rocker's talent . Like the aliens did in "Space Jam".
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America4Americans wrote:Wow. After the incident on Saturday, I could have sworn people would finally side with the Yankees. Instead, there's all sorts of spin-doctors out there blaming them for EVERYTHING on Saturday. I guess, I was too optimistic. I didn't realize there was such a mass hatred towards them. I would have thought something like this could have turned some people. I've noticed some on other boards, but certainly not here.
What happened that would support siding for NY? Was it Nelson and Garcia caught on film punching a Boston employee, while he was down btw? Or was it a out of control coach attacking a player?
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by Absolutely Adequate » Tue Oct 14, 2003 12:54 am
Or was it the unnecessarily hard slide into second? Really, to me, the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia. The difference between that and the three things the Yankees did? The Yankees did theirs on purpose. Maybe Pedro did, maybe he didn't. But the things the Yankees did aren't even up for debate. They were intentional.
Really. Cleat marks in the groundskeepers back. It's classless.
America4Americans wrote:Wow. After the incident on Saturday, I could have sworn people would finally side with the Yankees. Instead, there's all sorts of spin-doctors out there blaming them for EVERYTHING on Saturday. I guess, I was too optimistic. I didn't realize there was such a mass hatred towards them. I would have thought something like this could have turned some people. I've noticed some on other boards, but certainly not here.
What happened that would support siding for NY? Was it Nelson and Garcia caught on film punching a Boston employee, while he was down btw? Or was it a out of control coach attacking a player?
Got to side with you there Hootie. There's was nothing in that game to be proud of --as a Yankee or Sox fan. From Pedro to Garcia to Manny to Zimm to Nelson. Sad day.
(Nice signature, by the way. He's the MVP of the Sox, in my opinion, just not of the league.)
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Or was it the unnecessarily hard slide into second? Really, to me, the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia. The difference between that and the three things the Yankees did? The Yankees did theirs on purpose. Maybe Pedro did, maybe he didn't. But the things the Yankees did aren't even up for debate. They were intentional.
Really. Cleat marks in the groundskeepers back. It's classless.
Spoken like a true, unbiased fan.
I think that both of the teams were so out of line but for you to say that "the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia" is minimizing it. If not for that action, the rest would not have occured. What Pedro did was start this terrible chain of events.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Or was it the unnecessarily hard slide into second? Really, to me, the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia. The difference between that and the three things the Yankees did? The Yankees did theirs on purpose. Maybe Pedro did, maybe he didn't. But the things the Yankees did aren't even up for debate. They were intentional.
Really. Cleat marks in the groundskeepers back. It's classless.
Spoken like a true, unbiased fan.
I think that both of the teams were so out of line but for you to say that "the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia" is minimizing it. If not for that action, the rest would not have occured. What Pedro did was start this terrible chain of events.
Right. Had Pedro not thrown at Garcia--if that was what happened--Nelson would not have assaulted the groundskeeper. Man, your logic is horrible.
And, leaving out that incident, are you really going to tell me that three wrongs--Pedro's pitch, and the Yankees following up with Garcia's slide and Zimm's attack--make a right?
So if you kill my mother, and I respond by killing yours, it's your fault that your mother is dead?
Have you heard of this little ol' thing called personal responsibility? Uggh, this is making me sick.
Absolutely Adequate wrote:Or was it the unnecessarily hard slide into second? Really, to me, the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia. The difference between that and the three things the Yankees did? The Yankees did theirs on purpose. Maybe Pedro did, maybe he didn't. But the things the Yankees did aren't even up for debate. They were intentional.
Really. Cleat marks in the groundskeepers back. It's classless.
Spoken like a true, unbiased fan.
I think that both of the teams were so out of line but for you to say that "the Yankees only complaint is that Pedro threw at Garcia" is minimizing it. If not for that action, the rest would not have occured. What Pedro did was start this terrible chain of events.
Right. Had Pedro not thrown at Garcia--if that was what happened--Nelson would not have assaulted the groundskeeper. Man, your logic is horrible.
And, leaving out that incident, are you really going to tell me that three wrongs--Pedro's pitch, and the Yankees following up with Garcia's slide and Zimm's attack--make a right?
So if you kill my mother, and I respond by killing yours, it's your fault that your mother is dead?
Have you heard of this little ol' thing called personal responsibility? Uggh, this is making me sick.
Dude. I agreed with many of your posts until today. 3 wrongs don't make a right and 3 rights make a left. How is it impossible for you to see that there would have been no Manny, Zim, and bullpen incident if not for the beaning? Comparing this to murder is just stupid.
Do you really think that Manny would have gone to the mound if not for the earlier tensions? He's an idiot but not that much of one. Would Zimmer have gone after Pedro if not for the beaning? No way. Would the bullpen incident have occured if not for the beaning? No way. This was a chain of events and Pedro was the first link.