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BMRA-Round 1-Metallica vs. The Number of the Beast

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Which one?

Poll ended at Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:52 am

Metallica
12
63%
Number of the Beast
7
37%
 
Total votes : 19

BMRA-Round 1-Metallica vs. The Number of the Beast

Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:52 am

Had to slip an Iron Maiden album in there, should be in there in the first place if not for my mistake. 2 Metal albums, eliminate one.

Metallica's Metallica(Black Album)
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After the muddled production and ultracomplicated song structures of ...And Justice for All, Metallica decided that they had taken the progressive elements of their music as far as they could and that a simplification and streamlining of their sound was in order. While the assessment made sense from a musical standpoint, it also presented an opportunity to commercialize their music, and Metallica accomplishes both goals. The best songs are more melodic and immediate, the crushing, stripped-down grooves of "Enter Sandman," "Sad but True," and "Wherever I May Roam" sticking to traditional structures and using the same main riffs throughout; the crisp, professional production by Bob Rock adds to their accessibility. "The Unforgiven" and "Nothing Else Matters" avoid the slash-and-burn guitar riffs that had always punctuated the band's ballads; the latter is a full-fledged love song complete with string section, which works much better than might be imagined. The song- and riff-writing slips here and there, a rare occurrence for Metallica, which some longtime fans interpreted as filler next to a batch of singles calculated for commercial success. The objections were often more to the idea that Metallica was doing anything explicitly commercial, but millions more disagreed. In fact, the band's popularity exploded so much that most of their back catalog found mainstream acceptance in its own right, while other progressively inclined speed metal bands copied the move toward simplification. In retrospect, Metallica is a good, but not quite great, album, one whose best moments deservedly captured the heavy metal crown, but whose approach also foreshadowed a creative decline.

Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast
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Review by Greg Prato

Even though Iron Maiden were on the brink of worldwide superstardom after their breakthrough sophomore effort, Killers, vocalist Paul Di'Anno left the band at the conclusion of their 1981 world tour. Many fans wondered if this would signal the end to one of metal's most promising new bands, but their worries were soon erased after hearing the 1982 masterpiece The Number of the Beast. Ex-Samson singer Bruce Dickinson replaced Di'Anno, and his strong, operatic vocals proved to be one of Maiden's most distinctive trademarks. And while the music on their first albums contained elements of punk, Beast was a 100 percent true heavy metal album, as Maiden's songwriting and sound continued to solidify. Topping the charts in the U.K., and becoming their first U.S. Top 40 record, The Number of the Beast spawned a pair of all-time classic metal anthems -- "Run to the Hills" (which dealt with the plight of the American Indian) and the demonic title track (which caused controversy among religious groups, who wrongfully labeled the band Satan worshippers). But, like its predecessor, not a single weak track is included -- "Invaders," "The Prisoner," "22 Acacia Avenue" (a follow-up to 1980's "Charlotte the Harlot"), and "Gangland" were all rocking highlights; the quieter "Children of the Damned" and "Hallowed Be Thy Name" were also featured. The Number of the Beast is quite simply one of the best heavy metal albums ever released.
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:56 am

I'm too young and do not consider myself a metalhead. That's probably why I haven't heard much Iron Maiden aside from a couple songs, which was fine, but nothing great to my ear. Metallica declined sharply after the Black Album, but the Black album is where Metallica was liked by both its diehard fans(majority of them, I know AD has lost interest by then already) and by the mainstream fans. I vote Black album here.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:26 pm

the greatest metal album of the 80s vs the greatest metal album of the 90s in the first round?

Gotta go with Maiden, but I love both albums.
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Postby acsguitar » Sun Dec 24, 2006 12:37 pm

Not a big Maiden fan
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Postby Omaha Red Sox » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:17 pm

Easily Metallica here. ;-D
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Postby The Artful Dodger » Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:13 pm

I voted for Iron Maiden easily, but I think Powerslave was Maiden's best though.
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Postby BritSox » Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:22 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:the greatest metal album of the 80s vs the greatest metal album of the 90s in the first round?



Greatest metal album of the 80s was either Back In Black or Master Of Puppets.

I'm really torn here...
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Postby Another Blown Save » Sun Dec 24, 2006 5:33 pm

BritSox wrote:
Another Blown Save wrote:the greatest metal album of the 80s vs the greatest metal album of the 90s in the first round?



Greatest metal album of the 80s was either Back In Black or Master Of Puppets.

I'm really torn here...

Back in Black wasn't really metal, but you probably could make a case for MOP being the greatest 80s metal album

PS vote for Maiden ;-)
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Postby BritSox » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:42 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:
Back in Black wasn't really metal, but you probably could make a case for MOP being the greatest 80s metal album

PS vote for Maiden ;-)


That's crap. If you don't think AC/DC are metal, then your idea of metal has been distorted by thrash and/or nu-metal. DC were universally considered a heavy metal band at the time, and by most people since. Guitars? Check. Long hair? Check. Big riffs? Check. Solos? Check.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:02 pm

BritSox wrote:
Another Blown Save wrote:
Back in Black wasn't really metal, but you probably could make a case for MOP being the greatest 80s metal album

PS vote for Maiden ;-)


That's crap. If you don't think AC/DC are metal, then your idea of metal has been distorted by thrash and/or nu-metal. DC were universally considered a heavy metal band at the time, and by most people since. Guitars? Check. Long hair? Check. Big riffs? Check. Solos? Check.

I don't think AC/DC is universally considered as heavy metal.
In fact almost everybody tells me they are hard rock.

Wikipedia wrote:AC/DC are a hard rock band formed in Melbourne, Australia in 1973 (see 1973 in music) by brothers Angus and Malcolm Young. The group is considered to be a pioneer of hard rock music along with Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath, but the members have always referred to their music as "rock 'n' roll".


allmusic wrote:AC/DC's mammoth power-chord roar became one of the most influential hard rock sounds of the '70s. In its own way, it was a reaction against the pompous art rock and lumbering arena rock of the early '70s. AC/DC's rock was minimalist -- no matter how huge and bludgeoning the guitar chords were, there was a clear sense of space and restraint. Combined with Bon Scott's larynx-shredding vocals, the band spawned countless imitators over the next two decades.


VH1 wrote:AC/DC's mammoth power-chord roar became one of the most influential hard rock sounds of the '70s. In its own way, it was a reaction against the pompous art rock and lumbering arena rock of the early '70s. AC/DC's rock...
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