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BMRA-Round 1-Odelay vs. My Own Prison

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Which one?

Poll ended at Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:13 pm

Odelay
19
53%
My Own Prison
17
47%
 
Total votes : 36

Postby Tavish » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:38 pm

slomo007 wrote:I completely disagree with you Tav. Creed's return to true rock sound was extremely different than most "rock" music coming out at the time. We're talking about the height of Green Day/Goo Good Dolls, Barenaked Ladies, & Third Eye Blind.

How exactly does Creed sound anything like the most popular bands of 1997/1998? I've heard the Pearl Jam copycat reference before, but Pearl Jam was early '90s, not late '90s.


Pearl Jam put out two albums (No Code and Yield) right around the same time as Prison so its wasn't like they were some long faded memory. Metallica put out Load and Re-Load, Silverchair had Freakshow, Live had Secret Samadhi, Soundgarden's Down on the Upside, RatM' Evil Empire, Tool's AEnima, Korn's Follow the Leader, Bush's Razorblade Suitcase, Pantera's Great Southern Trendkill and a few others all were around the same time. If you remember the late 90's rock scene as being Goo Goo Dolls and Barenaked Ladies, with Creed as the holding down the fort then you missed out on a bunch of good music.

Creed was playing the same riffs and singing the same vocals that were popular 5 years before they broke mainstream. The only thing that really made them stand out was the inclusion of religious overtones that the band promptly tried to push as far away from them as possible because it might have put a strain on future record sales.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:41 pm

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slomo007 wrote:Not if you are a true guitarist. A vote against Creed is a vote against Mark Tremonti. And a vote against this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPMSwOtZWoY


And which Creed songs sound remotely like that?


The solo in this one, for example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVcNxm5EFZ0

Skip to 3:15 in to the song. I admit Stapp sounds absolutely horrible. This song is actually off Weathered, their latest CD, and he was already screwed up by this point.

There are several more solos that I'm having trouble finding on You Tube. Pity for a Dime, on My Own Prison, has a great solo in it but it's not on You Tube. Also, some heavier songs on My Own Prison are Unforgiven and Ode. Not all of Creed sounds anything even close to With Arms Wide Open or Higher.

Here is Ode, perhaps the heaviest song on My Own Prison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIRJuARv68

Now, does that sound like With Arms Wide Open?

You may hate Stapp, and to be honest he deserves a lot of the crap he gets. But, to say that the band has no talent is just plain wrong. They're an extremely talented band, and Stapp, believe it or not, is talented. He just chose to waste it.
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Postby ironman » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:42 pm

I hate Creed so much that I couldn't honestly be subjective in this argument.

Beck is one of my favorite artists. Odelay going up against Nevermind next round is a bit unfortunate. I'll give it my support but it'll probably get trounced.
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Postby ThatDude » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:46 pm

slomo007 wrote:But, to say that the band has no talent is just plain wrong.


I never said that. I did call them "suck-out-loud noise-makers" and "clowns".
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:48 pm

ThatDude wrote:
slomo007 wrote:But, to say that the band has no talent is just plain wrong.


I never said that. I did call them "suck-out-loud noise-makers" and "clowns".


I just don't think they are very good. The words "run of the mill" pop into my head
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Postby Simulacrum » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:48 pm

Shame on you Creed-loving assclowns. :-t

Beck is awesome and Odelay is one of his best!
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:48 pm

ThatDude wrote:
slomo007 wrote:But, to say that the band has no talent is just plain wrong.


I never said that. I did call them "suck-out-loud noise-makers" and "clowns".


Yeah, I was the one that said they had no talent. Collectively of course; the whole is the sum of its parts, and most of Creeds parts blow.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:49 pm

Coppermine wrote:
ThatDude wrote:
slomo007 wrote:But, to say that the band has no talent is just plain wrong.


I never said that. I did call them "suck-out-loud noise-makers" and "clowns".


Yeah, I was the one that said they had no talent. Collectively of course; the whole is the sum of its parts, and most of Creeds parts blow.


3 parts suck and 1 part overrated guitarist = suck
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Postby slomo007 » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:51 pm

2 more votes, come on. I know they stand no chance, but losing to Beck is like losing to a special olympian.
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Dec 18, 2006 12:53 pm

slomo007 wrote:2 more votes, come on. I know they stand no chance, but losing to Beck is like losing to a special olympian.


Yeah, if there is a special olympics event for "most innovative musician of the 90's"
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