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Postby orange12 » Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:36 pm

Bagwell is a solid first ballot HOFer. The only thing that might hurt his chances is the fact that he played right through the heart of the Steroids Era and came out with less than 500 HR. But ultimately, I think the voters will enshrine him simply because he was one of the best among his peers and equally as good compared to the legends of the past.
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Postby thedude » Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:21 pm

Congrats on your great career Jeff. Too bad it had to end so soon.
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Postby decoy562 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:19 am

thanks for the memories Bags...
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Postby hooligan1 » Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:27 am

I think he is a HOFer, but probably not 1st ballot. I think Gammons and most of the ESPN guys like him, as well as Rosenthal and I'm guessing the Astro's beat writers. I think though that a lot of voters will penalize him for A.) his numbers not being quite huge enough to make him a Hall-lock and B.) playing during the steroid era and there being some suspicion about Bags himself.

Only player in MLB history to have six straight seasons of at least 30 homers, 100 RBI's, 100 runs and 100 walks. Career BA of .297. Rookie of the Year. MVP. Gold Glove. Multiple Silver Sluggers. No less and expert than Bill James lists Bagwell as the fourth best 1st Baseman of all-time.

I feel the fact that he was a great mix of contact, power, base-running prowess, on-base percentage and solid defense makes up for the fact that his career numbers, on whole, aren't perhaps as overwhelming as some HOFer's. Also the fact that he played his entire major-league career for one team, has to count for something.

In addition, I think he must be among the career leaders in stolen bases for 1st basemen (202), although I can't find any site to confirm this.

One of my all-time faves! Thanks Jeff!! Enjoy your retirement.
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Postby wrveres » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:17 pm

hooligan1 wrote:I think he is a HOFer, but probably not 1st ballot. I think Gammons and most of the ESPN guys like him, as well as Rosenthal and I'm guessing the Astro's beat writers. I think though that a lot of voters will penalize him for A.) his numbers not being quite huge enough to make him a Hall-lock and B.) playing during the steroid era and there being some suspicion about Bags himself.

Only player in MLB history to have six straight seasons of at least 30 homers, 100 RBI's, 100 runs and 100 walks. Career BA of .297. Rookie of the Year. MVP. Gold Glove. Multiple Silver Sluggers. No less and expert than Bill James lists Bagwell as the fourth best 1st Baseman of all-time.

I feel the fact that he was a great mix of contact, power, base-running prowess, on-base percentage and solid defense makes up for the fact that his career numbers, on whole, aren't perhaps as overwhelming as some HOFer's. Also the fact that he played his entire major-league career for one team, has to count for something.

In addition, I think he must be among the career leaders in stolen bases for 1st basemen (202), although I can't find any site to confirm this.

One of my all-time faves! Thanks Jeff!! Enjoy your retirement.


solid post hooligan, and I agree wholeheartedly.

gonna miss Bagwell. He was always my 1B target, even if I had to overpay :,-(
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Postby ayebatter » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:19 pm

wrveres wrote:
hooligan1 wrote:I think he is a HOFer, but probably not 1st ballot. I think Gammons and most of the ESPN guys like him, as well as Rosenthal and I'm guessing the Astro's beat writers. I think though that a lot of voters will penalize him for A.) his numbers not being quite huge enough to make him a Hall-lock and B.) playing during the steroid era and there being some suspicion about Bags himself.

Only player in MLB history to have six straight seasons of at least 30 homers, 100 RBI's, 100 runs and 100 walks. Career BA of .297. Rookie of the Year. MVP. Gold Glove. Multiple Silver Sluggers. No less and expert than Bill James lists Bagwell as the fourth best 1st Baseman of all-time.

I feel the fact that he was a great mix of contact, power, base-running prowess, on-base percentage and solid defense makes up for the fact that his career numbers, on whole, aren't perhaps as overwhelming as some HOFer's. Also the fact that he played his entire major-league career for one team, has to count for something.

In addition, I think he must be among the career leaders in stolen bases for 1st basemen (202), although I can't find any site to confirm this.

One of my all-time faves! Thanks Jeff!! Enjoy your retirement.


solid post hooligan, and I agree wholeheartedly.

gonna miss Bagwell. He was always my 1B target, even if I had to overpay :,-(


Ditto on all accounts :,-(
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