We need to exterminate all Lexus Christmas Commercials

[Chrisy Moltisanti]

True, the ads are a bit cheesy, but hey, as long as they pay the advertising bill and Lexus is happy with the results, they will keep running those commercials.

I disagree. In terms of quality, Lexus has almost always produced a better vehicle than BMW. Performance is a different issue. The average Lexus has a higher value retention.

Since the American merger, both Mercedes stock and quality has dropped in value... Sources include people I've spoken with (yes mostly my friends fathers, most of which also own some nice older 80s and 90s non Dahlmer-Chrysler) and well, anything I've seen printed. Show me different.

[Chrisy Moltisanti]

I wish I didn't buy mine in the winter. But I've still had about 10 days with the top down which is nice.

its gonna rule in colorado when its 105 degrees on in the summer

Dude it sucks even more when it's in your face with no A/C. I know no one in Colorado has ever heard of freon powered "air conditioning", but I don't think your zippper windowed beast has a friggen' SWAP COOLER in it. God I hate those things. "Hey let's get sweaty with 1001% humidity at 79.9 degrees and think that's cold"

[Chrisy Moltisanti]

The thing I hate about cars is how worthless they are. They are really not assets but more of a liability. Plus they depreciate rapidly, cost of maintenance/repairs, etc.

I was thinking about getting a new car but I will probably save my money for a few years, beat the crap out of mine then get a new one after that.

But they are a necessity. So it's relative to the value retention of a depreciative asset.

Buy a Beamer and lose. Buy a pre Dahlmer Bendz or Lexus and win.

Or compensate for the lack of factor and buy the Beamer and win

This is based on averages of course.

[Chrisy Moltisanti]

maybe im partial since i am a lexus owner but i would definitely say that most people mention mercedes, bmw, and lexus all in the same breath, whether they all deserve to be or not is a different question. infiniti has been making their push as well to be placed in this category and i still definitely think acura is a full notch below.

That is pretty accurate and 100% in terms of an essentially indistinguishable top 3, but there are many models from different producers who tap in to this market. Examples include:

Nissan Maxima - Best value large performance car in production today.

VW Passat 3.6L 4motion. 18" Samarkand's. Sport seats, ground effects, DVD Navigation iPod Adapter, Bi-Xenons Headlights AFS. ~50K. Piamp.

Audi A6, TT, A8....

R8 wow


Acura (very good buy in many cases): RL, TL, RSX.

Caddy: CTS-V- 6.0L V8. Damn Gina!. STS. STS-V - 4.4L 32 valve supercharged; This American made power makes me feel good. XLR, XLR-V, 443 HP and 414 ft-lbs of torque.

Jaguar.

Sab 9-5.

'Vette.



Hmm, one can buy a 2006 Benz for about 20 g's.

[Snakes Gould]

wow great info, im familar with you from the bball cafe, but you do realize you just made 5 posts in a row

[AcidRock23]

Lexus hold their value better b/c they are engineered, for people who like quiet cars, to be the quietest and smoothest cars in the marketplace. BMW are still engineered to be 'the ultimate driving machine' and Mercedes kind of rest on their laurels. I suspect that a large segment of the 'lets blow $40K on a sedan!' crowd are more interested in having a quiet/ smooth car than something that will eat the greasy S turns for breakfast.

I have to say that I think that the sucker that parallel parks itself is kind of neat but that I would be way too paranoid to use it...

[Yoda]

I don't like BMWs because they made Nazi airplanes.

[acsguitar]

I wish I didn't buy mine in the winter. But I've still had about 10 days with the top down which is nice.

its gonna rule in colorado when its 105 degrees on in the summer

Dude it sucks even more when it's in your face with no A/C. I know no one in Colorado has ever heard of freon powered "air conditioning", but I don't think your zippper windowed beast has a friggen' SWAP COOLER in it. God I hate those things. "Hey let's get sweaty with 1001% humidity at 79.9 degrees and think that's cold"

I have A/C.

Its not always 105 degrees so it should be nice

[AcidRock23]

I don't like BMWs because they made Nazi airplanes.

you would have to exclude yourself from a LONG list of products to avoid companies who did business w/ the Nazis...Hitler had several Mercedes, there was definitely party interest in the successes of the Auto Union (Audi) GP cars as well, including the Hungarian Grand Prix run AFTER the Germans invaded Poland, IBM, etc.

I'm not as familiar w/ the roots of Toyotas but I'd have to suspect, given the centralized nature of Japanese Zaibatsu, that they were likely in on some of their atrocities during the early 20th century as well.

GM also invested in Nazi Germany, before we get into a 'Buy American' bonanza...

[bigh0rt]

I don't like BMWs because they made Nazi airplanes.

Funny. That's the exact reason I do like them.