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Postby DK » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:11 pm

Look how much a difference pierre is... beltran is the best 5-tool fantasy player in the game today, IMO. Soriano and (if he starts stealing again) Vlad are close seconds.
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Postby Arlo » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:27 pm

Interesting - thanks for running those numbers! ;-D
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Postby Madison » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:05 pm

DK wrote:Look how much a difference pierre is... beltran is the best 5-tool fantasy player in the game today, IMO. Soriano and (if he starts stealing again) Vlad are close seconds.


Pierre is just like Gagne. What would Gagne be worth without the saves? Donnelly anyone?
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Postby Transmogrifier » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:15 pm

Madison wrote:
DK wrote:Look how much a difference pierre is... beltran is the best 5-tool fantasy player in the game today, IMO. Soriano and (if he starts stealing again) Vlad are close seconds.


Pierre is just like Gagne. What would Gagne be worth without the saves? Donnelly anyone?


Hmm... does his value change from H2H to Roto? I would never have thought of drafting Pierre that early, but I'm thinking four or five now...
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Postby Madison » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:22 pm

Transmogrifier wrote:
Madison wrote:
DK wrote:Look how much a difference pierre is... beltran is the best 5-tool fantasy player in the game today, IMO. Soriano and (if he starts stealing again) Vlad are close seconds.


Pierre is just like Gagne. What would Gagne be worth without the saves? Donnelly anyone?


Hmm... does his value change from H2H to Roto? I would never have thought of drafting Pierre that early, but I'm thinking four or five now...


I'd say Pierre is just as valuable in both types of leagues.
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Postby LBJackal » Thu Nov 06, 2003 6:41 pm

Madison wrote:
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Madison wrote:
DK wrote:Look how much a difference pierre is... beltran is the best 5-tool fantasy player in the game today, IMO. Soriano and (if he starts stealing again) Vlad are close seconds.


Pierre is just like Gagne. What would Gagne be worth without the saves? Donnelly anyone?


Hmm... does his value change from H2H to Roto? I would never have thought of drafting Pierre that early, but I'm thinking four or five now...


I'd say Pierre is just as valuable in both types of leagues.


Yes, Pierre is jsut as valuable in both leagues. It's not like he goes on big spurts of SB's or runs, and his BA is consistent. HR hitters can be better in H2H because any one of them can win you a week. Imagine somebody hits 7 HR's in a week. That's a lot of R, RBI, and HR's. Pierre spreads his value throughout the whole season, so he might even be better in roto, especially since he is a good hitter for average. IE: a guy with a .305 average won't help you too much in H2H for the AVG cat, but over the span of a whole roto season, he might even help more than a .325 hitter with far less AB's due to walks or missed games (ahem, Barry Bonds).
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