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Re: "Who Killed It" explained

Postby thedude » Sat Dec 16, 2006 2:20 pm

smoovethug wrote:Found this on another board and thought it was very interesting. I missed alot of the metaphors and it makes me like the song even more now. Lengthy read but well worth it.

now lets get some things straight since its a story there's characters, setting and plot

the plot is who killed hip-hop?

the setting is 1930s the golden era; the manifestation of jazz, mobsters, bootlegging and organized crime

the characters are nas the detective and his partner joe da butcher

freckle face who is joe da butchers connection to the underworld

and hip-hop who is the girl in the story a.k.a. the gal

now what happens is pretty mike and two face al kill each other and the gal runs off with the money

pretty mike and two face al are B.I.G. & Tupac and its a psuedonym for hip-hop maximizing its commercialism which is why the gal runs off with the money

the murder of two face al is directly referencing tupac dying first

now this all occured at some club where the classic jams go on sung by the gal

that is why nas says damn that was my jam because she will never be singing there again

the setting is further portrayed through the uses of microphone cord as the murder weapon and the fact the body was found in the aisle

now joe da butches represent the average hip-hop listener

his name simply breaks down to joe a.k.a. the average joe schmo and da butcher part is a reference to "chewing the fat" which means just kicking simple convo chillin

now after joe mentions to nas that he realizes he's falling for her nas hits the bar a lil aggitated

he realizes its the same scene at the bar but says f*ck it and drinks are on him

that represent nas going commercial and he admits it but tries to counteract that by saying "but I always felt outta place" which means he sold out but still puts out real hip-hop

the symbolism in the bar scene is that joe the da butcher is nas partner but his southern connects (freckle face and company) are involved wit this crime

joe is none the wiser a.k.a. the average listener supports southern music regardless of all this south trash talk (jeezy,ludacris,lil jon,rick ross)

nas gets a lil ticked off and heads outside and realizes the gal has been trailin him the whole time

that's basically saying that even though he didn't kno it hip-hop HAS been followin him for a while

next thing she steps out the shadow and he says "all this time she had me in her scope"

in her scope = interscope
nas starts the story saying "death by strangulation" but death = def

basically he was saying that def jam started the "killing" (when it commercialized hip-hop) and now interscope
runs it

at this point he is saying the crackers took control of the art hence the reference to conspiracy theorys behind this whodunit

"that's why eric b is not president" pretty much sums it up

so def jam chokeholded the game and then universal picked it up

at this point nas has some evidence so he starts interrogating the broad

"I know you have soul quit tryin to hide it" is obviously saying that hip-hop has soul but its obscured by the commercialism

nas uses the interrogation wisely by bringing up cypress hill and snoop dogg referencing the classics just flippin the phrases

if you can't figure it out then your pretty f*ckin stupid

she (hip-hop) supposedly killed a man in cypress which is a project in brooklyn

cypress hill how I could just kill a man

and one eyed charlie (krs-one) who only hangs with the criminal minded (bdp) said they did it doggystyle (snoop dogg) but obviously referencing sex

at this point she puts everything in perspective for nas IN ORDER because nas was out of chronological order by mentioning 92 then 91 then 88

so she begins by asking him to "walk this way" (run dmc) and she will tell him a childrens story (slick rick)

this is starting out raw hip-hop in the 80s

"got her a few 40s" is now referencing the west coast era domination as well hoppin in the "ride"

at this point hip-hop started losing "it" because it was being bombarded by commercial gangsterism and losing its origins

the getting tipsy part refers to hip-hop totally losing control and becoming almost completely pop (the bad boy era)

"as we got to her suave house chopped and screwed her mouth" is now moving on to the south moving on in at the close of the shiny suit era and is cleverly flipped to nas getting oral sex by hip-hop he finally gave in

after he f*cks her she spills the beans and tells him that bill gates sponsored her to destroy hip-hop through means of downloading and extreme piracy

remember hip-hops father was a bootlegger and now her sponsor is one of the largest helpers in the creation of bootlegging

at this point she just breaks down and admits she is IMMORTAL because no regular human could be alive in BOTH slave times AND the 1930s

she says she came from that era and had many lovers since but her one true love was kool herc (pioneer of hip-hop, some say sole creator)

but then she obviously f*cked him over and fell to the pressure of the root of all evil, money (the 200 grand) (by the way 200 grnd in 1930 is worth MILLIONS)

at this point the gig is up and she begins to fade away magically but lets nas know its his inner spirit that really keeps hip-hop alive

she really didn't need the money in the end


Wow. Someone must have had to listen to that song many times to get all of this.
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Re: "Who Killed It" explained

Postby Snakes Gould » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:42 am

thedude wrote:
Wow. Someone must have had to listen to that song many times to get all of this.


wow, i didnt catch alot of those...pretty deep actually...even more reason to like nas
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Postby Coppermine » Sun Dec 17, 2006 2:17 pm

Hip-hop is alive.... IT'S ALIVE! :-D
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Postby warrick95 » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:08 am

bigh0rt wrote:
Snakes Gould wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:Nas hasn't released a good album in over 10 years.


i still consider stillmatic, god's son, i am, lost tapes, streets disciple, and now hip hop is dead all above average, whether they will ever compare to illmatic is a moot point, because no one ever wants to say that an album is better than a classic.


I'm not comparing them to Illmatic. I'm comparing them to anything that is good. You consider them above average, but they were all pure and complete trash. As I said, Nas made one good album, and is still raking in millions off it -- it's wild.


Just curious...what do you consider good? Personally, I hate most of the rap that other people think is good, whether it's the horrific commercial rap or the underground alternative rap with horrible production and beats and average flow that sanctimonious people laud all the time. Honestly, read poetry or something if that's what you want to listen to.

This album is very solid. The message is superb..
Obviously nothing he's done or will ever do will compare to Illmatic, but to say that it's worse than the rest of the game..man...he's one of the few left in the game who can actually rap.
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Dec 19, 2006 1:30 am

There haven't been a ton of entire album's I've enjoyed in a pretty solid amount of time, but here's what I generally keep rotating in my player...

Aquemini by OutKast
Stankonia by OutKast
The Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem
Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu-Tang Clan
The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest
The Blueprint by Jay-Z
Black on Both Sides by Mos Def
Ready to Die by Notorious BIG
Phrenology by The Roots
Some Saigon mixtape a friend gave to me


The best recent album I've listened to is Food & Liquor by Lupe Fiasco
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Postby CC » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:22 am

bigh0rt wrote:There haven't been a ton of entire album's I've enjoyed in a pretty solid amount of time, but here's what I generally keep rotating in my player...

Aquemini by OutKast
Stankonia by OutKast
The Marshall Mathers LP by Eminem
Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu-Tang Clan
The Low End Theory by A Tribe Called Quest
The Blueprint by Jay-Z
Black on Both Sides by Mos Def
Ready to Die by Notorious BIG
Phrenology by The Roots
Some Saigon mixtape a friend gave to me


The best recent album I've listened to is Food & Liquor by Lupe Fiasco


I like your style, those are all great albums. ;-D
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Postby Snakes Gould » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:44 am

i agree, but if those are the LAST hip-hop albums you've listened to, you must have a really high standard :-o
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:06 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:i agree, but if those are the LAST hip-hop albums you've listened to, you must have a really high standard :-o


For listening to entire albums straight through, yes. I find that a majority of albums that I listen to have literally between 3 and 5 songs that should have actually made it through production; and even if those 3 to 5 songs are really good and the other 13 songs are crap, you have to say the album is crap, because 5 good songs, does not a good album make. So, I take the few songs I like, and either toss 'em on my iPod or make mix CDs out of 'em.

The number of good complete albums that have come out in recent memory is definitely slim to none, though, as far as I'm concerned.
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Postby bigh0rt » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:16 pm

Here's a few others that I don't quite love as much as the other ones I listed, but I can still give a full listen to once in awhile...

It's Dark and Hell is Hot by DMX
The Score by Fugees
Doggystyle by Snoop Doggy Dogg
Illmatic by Nas
Me Against the World by 2Pac
All Eyez on Me by 2Pac
Cypress Hill by Cypress Hill
License to Ill by Beastie Boys
Liquid Swords by GZA
Reasonable Doubt... Vol. 1 by Jay-Z
The Infamous by Mobb Deep
Life After Death by Notorious BIG
ATLiens by OutKast

Again, that doesn't mean I don't like parts or specific songs on other albums... these ones are just more complete and easy to listen to without, say, skipping 5 consecutive tracks that should've just never been included...
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Postby Coppermine » Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:34 pm

Question; why is he called Nas?
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