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Postby Lofunzo » Mon May 21, 2007 10:27 am

Mookie4ever wrote:I just went through this entire process and ended up getting an LCD. I got the 37" Aquos. Salespeople try to sell you these big honkin TVs but unless you live in the Rosebowl I wouldn't get anything bigger than that. You have to have a pretty damned big room to have a 45 or 50 incher. Sitting close to a huge TV really sucks.

I'm very happy with what I got but I've gotta say that HD really is overrated. I've seen it on plasmas, LCDs and dpis. They sure make it look good with the nature shows that they are always playing in the store but get it home and HD is just ok. The upgrade in TV will make a big difference but the difference b/w HD and regular channels is negligible (and yes I have the HD box, HD channels and the HDMI connection - still think that it is overrated).


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Postby Yoda » Mon May 21, 2007 12:00 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:I just went through this entire process and ended up getting an LCD. I got the 37" Aquos. Salespeople try to sell you these big honkin TVs but unless you live in the Rosebowl I wouldn't get anything bigger than that. You have to have a pretty damned big room to have a 45 or 50 incher. Sitting close to a huge TV really sucks.

I'm very happy with what I got but I've gotta say that HD really is overrated. I've seen it on plasmas, LCDs and dpis. They sure make it look good with the nature shows that they are always playing in the store but get it home and HD is just ok. The upgrade in TV will make a big difference but the difference b/w HD and regular channels is negligible (and yes I have the HD box, HD channels and the HDMI connection - still think that it is overrated).


My HD channels are far and away superior to my SD channels. They are not even close in quality and makes my SD channels virtually unwatchable on my 4 year old LCD rear projection TV set.
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Postby bigh0rt » Mon May 21, 2007 12:47 pm

Yoda wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:I just went through this entire process and ended up getting an LCD. I got the 37" Aquos. Salespeople try to sell you these big honkin TVs but unless you live in the Rosebowl I wouldn't get anything bigger than that. You have to have a pretty damned big room to have a 45 or 50 incher. Sitting close to a huge TV really sucks.

I'm very happy with what I got but I've gotta say that HD really is overrated. I've seen it on plasmas, LCDs and dpis. They sure make it look good with the nature shows that they are always playing in the store but get it home and HD is just ok. The upgrade in TV will make a big difference but the difference b/w HD and regular channels is negligible (and yes I have the HD box, HD channels and the HDMI connection - still think that it is overrated).


My HD channels are far and away superior to my SD channels. They are not even close in quality and makes my SD channels virtually unwatchable on my 4 year old LCD rear projection TV set.


I agree with a 9 month old 50" DLP TV. The difference from SD to HD is monumental, especially with any and all sports programming and movies on TV. Believe it or not, HD has made me watch the NHL Playoffs, because it looks so good. I find that I rarely watch anything that's not broadcast in HD anymore, because it just doesn't look that good.
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Postby Yoda » Mon May 21, 2007 12:56 pm

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Yoda wrote:
Mookie4ever wrote:I just went through this entire process and ended up getting an LCD. I got the 37" Aquos. Salespeople try to sell you these big honkin TVs but unless you live in the Rosebowl I wouldn't get anything bigger than that. You have to have a pretty damned big room to have a 45 or 50 incher. Sitting close to a huge TV really sucks.

I'm very happy with what I got but I've gotta say that HD really is overrated. I've seen it on plasmas, LCDs and dpis. They sure make it look good with the nature shows that they are always playing in the store but get it home and HD is just ok. The upgrade in TV will make a big difference but the difference b/w HD and regular channels is negligible (and yes I have the HD box, HD channels and the HDMI connection - still think that it is overrated).


My HD channels are far and away superior to my SD channels. They are not even close in quality and makes my SD channels virtually unwatchable on my 4 year old LCD rear projection TV set.


I agree with a 9 month old 50" DLP TV. The difference from SD to HD is monumental, especially with any and all sports programming and movies on TV. Believe it or not, HD has made me watch the NHL Playoffs, because it looks so good. I find that I rarely watch anything that's not broadcast in HD anymore, because it just doesn't look that good.


Yeah watching sports is amazing in HD. On my set you can see the seams and also the rotation on a ball. I don't have the most expensive or technically superior set but the difference between HD and SD is like night and day.
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Postby Yoda » Mon May 21, 2007 12:58 pm

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slomo007 wrote:I would avoid DLP as well unless price is your main concern. Perhaps I have just not seen a properly setup one, but I have never seen a DLP come close to matching the picture of either a plasma or LCD. My preference is plasma, due to the darker blacks. I also don't care much for projections of any type.

Of course plasmas are probably the most expensive, so only go that route if you can afford it.


i agree. as far as quality goes, none of the rear projection televisions can match plasma's black level. plasmas generally boast the highest contrast ratios of any of the competing technologies, which is one of the most important factors in picture quality.

the true cost to own is kind of confusing--

DLP, or any of the rear projection sets, require lamp/bulb replacements every couple of years. currently the bulbs are around $200-300. they should get cheaper as time goes on. some sets require a service tech to install the lamp while others can be done by the consumer. anyway, DLP is cheap up front but requires continual lamp replacements which decreases the price gap.

plasmas are energy hogs and can cost $30-$50 more than DLP and LCD per year in electricity.

LCD displays are cheaper than plasmas for the small sizes but for 40" and higher plasmas are cheaper than LCDs.

i would tend to stay away from the bargain brands. they may be cheaper up front but typically dont look as good and dont last as long.


The lamp on my Sony LCD TV is about $200 now. It's been 4 years running and I had it replaced once while it was under warranty.

The service guy told me that it is about $200 to call him out next time and that would include the parts. That is not that bad considering Plasma will die and there is no way to revive it.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 21, 2007 1:28 pm

Yoda wrote:
j_d_mcnugent wrote:
slomo007 wrote:I would avoid DLP as well unless price is your main concern. Perhaps I have just not seen a properly setup one, but I have never seen a DLP come close to matching the picture of either a plasma or LCD. My preference is plasma, due to the darker blacks. I also don't care much for projections of any type.

Of course plasmas are probably the most expensive, so only go that route if you can afford it.


i agree. as far as quality goes, none of the rear projection televisions can match plasma's black level. plasmas generally boast the highest contrast ratios of any of the competing technologies, which is one of the most important factors in picture quality.

the true cost to own is kind of confusing--

DLP, or any of the rear projection sets, require lamp/bulb replacements every couple of years. currently the bulbs are around $200-300. they should get cheaper as time goes on. some sets require a service tech to install the lamp while others can be done by the consumer. anyway, DLP is cheap up front but requires continual lamp replacements which decreases the price gap.

plasmas are energy hogs and can cost $30-$50 more than DLP and LCD per year in electricity.

LCD displays are cheaper than plasmas for the small sizes but for 40" and higher plasmas are cheaper than LCDs.

i would tend to stay away from the bargain brands. they may be cheaper up front but typically dont look as good and dont last as long.


The lamp on my Sony LCD TV is about $200 now. It's been 4 years running and I had it replaced once while it was under warranty.

The service guy told me that it is about $200 to call him out next time and that would include the parts. That is not that bad considering Plasma will die and there is no way to revive it.


Plasmas take 10+ years to die, and even that is short-sighted.

In 10 years a replacement 42" plasma is going to be so much more advanced and less costly than it is today that I'll actually be glad it died and made me buy a new one.

In all seriousness, regarding your decision scottytrav. Your price range isn't really high enough for a decent plasma. I'd go with an LCD (not projection) that is 37" or so, and then get the Wii. You should have more than enough money. Sharp Aquos gets the best reviews, but I'm not an LCD expert so I'll let some other guys take care of that.
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 21, 2007 1:31 pm

One more thing, check out this site daily and wait for a great deal on an LCD. It's constantly updated, so check it often: http://techbargains.com/
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 21, 2007 1:53 pm

Actually, I stand corrected. Here's what I would buy, along with a Wii.

42" Panasonic Plasma on sale for $1249 shipped.

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/5184066

Man plasmas have dropped in price a TON. I bought a 42" Hitachi about a year and a half ago for about twice that price. :-°
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Postby Madison » Mon May 21, 2007 2:04 pm

slomo007 wrote:Man plasmas have dropped in price a TON. I bought a 42" Hitachi about a year and a half ago for about twice that price. :-°


Last I heard they were all done making plasmas, which is why the prices started falling so drastically. I could have been misinformed though. :-?
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Postby slomo007 » Mon May 21, 2007 2:13 pm

Madison wrote:
slomo007 wrote:Man plasmas have dropped in price a TON. I bought a 42" Hitachi about a year and a half ago for about twice that price. :-°


Last I heard they were all done making plasmas, which is why the prices started falling so drastically. I could have been misinformed though. :-?


Plasmas are definitely still around. They're still pretty popular, the main problem is that LCDs and DLPs can be made cheaper so people like to buy them. IMO there is a definite picture improvement in plasma over the others, but I realize that sometimes it is not worth the price unless you're a real TV connoisseur. It's encouraging to see a Panasonic (a high end brand) 42" version for $1250 though, that's a good sign for the future of plasmas if they can get their price point down.
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