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Postby acsguitar » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:24 pm

Coppermine wrote:..... but there were some parts that went beyond a reasonable suspension of my disbelief.


Huh??
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Postby teddy ballgame » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:03 pm

I've read about a lot of people dealing with people like this in England. I believe they're referred to as "chavs."
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Postby Phatferd » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:16 pm

I've been shot at once and another time a rock the size of a football was thrown through my bedroom window at like 2am and landed next to my pillow about 2 feet away.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:22 pm

Phatferd wrote:I've been shot at once and another time a rock the size of a football was thrown through my bedroom window at like 2am and landed next to my pillow about 2 feet away.


And you still live in California?
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Postby Phatferd » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:28 pm

acsguitar wrote:
Phatferd wrote:I've been shot at once and another time a rock the size of a football was thrown through my bedroom window at like 2am and landed next to my pillow about 2 feet away.


And you still live in California?


I'm in Phoenix right now, but moving back to California in a month.

This all happened in Orange County too! It really came down to a family moved into the neighborhood with some punk kids and began vandalising the area. They would break into garages and steal stuff, mess with people's cars, etc. My mom was the only one on the street to stand up to them, so we kind of had a target on our back. We moved...

Actually right before we moved one of the sons was arrested because he robbed a gas station around the corner with a gun.

I came home from Borat last week to a dude sitting in front of my door drinking 2 40's of Olde English. That was an interesting situation.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:22 pm

acsguitar wrote:I don't consider myself a "racist" but it sure didn't make it easier for me to trust a certain race unfortunately.


I don't want to turn this into a race debate, but if the people who did this to you would have been of your race, would you find it hard to trust people the same race as you?
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:25 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I don't consider myself a "racist" but it sure didn't make it easier for me to trust a certain race unfortunately.


I don't want to turn this into a race debate, but if the people who did this to you would have been of your race, would you find it hard to trust people the same race as you?


I don't want to turn this into a race debate either, and although I'm not in any way racist, I'm also a realist and I recognize that some stereotypes are more true than we'd generally like them to be.

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Postby Half Massed » Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:48 pm

How old were these kids (about)?
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Postby BritSox » Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:00 pm

They had to be 16 at the oldest, as the sixth form (16-18) don't wear uniform. I'd guess 15. Which is why I laughed when the first one punched me, which in retrospect wasn't the best idea.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Nov 13, 2006 7:30 pm

Art Vandelay wrote:
acsguitar wrote:I don't consider myself a "racist" but it sure didn't make it easier for me to trust a certain race unfortunately.


I don't want to turn this into a race debate, but if the people who did this to you would have been of your race, would you find it hard to trust people the same race as you?


All I'm saying as a 12 year old if that it obviously wasn't the best "impression" made on me.

As impressionable young people alot of things make up who we are and unfortunately that situation didn't sit well with me at all. Had it been a white kid who did it I probably would've taken something from it. Maybee the way he dresses maybee his accent.. who knows.

I see where you are coming from. I think however, that its hard to call everyone a racist and not understand any background to the situation. I definitly don't trust every white person nor every black person nor mexican nor whatever....I'm just saying that that specific situation didn't exactly make a good impression on me.

When it comes down to it I've learned that its the color of your skin that makes a difference but rather your charecter.

I learned alot about racism when I went to college in south carolina and you really learn the ins and outs of racism.

Going into college I tried to be pretty open to everyone. However, Charleston is pretty segregated. The black kids didn't wanna hang out with the white kids and the other way around. Lets just say some of the worst people I've met are white guys in South Carolina.

Anyways my point was that currently I don't consider myself a racist but the trust issue is something I will need to work on. I've had many black, mexican, jewish, gay etc... friends. I'm open to everyone. I think I'm just not a trusting person with anyone to begin with. But it does make it hard if a certain type of person keeps picking on you obviously you are going to make associations.

Another point to my obviously long rant....When I got to college I didn't wanna be a frat kid so I wasn't. When I would rarely go to their parties I was treated like crap and people always tried to pick fights with me. I at the time had long hair and was pretty much a stoner kid. From that point on I didn't trust frat kids. However, I've learned that you can't lump a whole group of people into one category. Its something I need to work on but I'm not afraid to admit it. Is it worse for me to say that a black kid stole from me and it hurt my impression of them then to just ignore it and pretend thats just the way it is.

Anyways big ups respek
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