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Postby j_d_mcnugent » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:18 pm

this gallop survey, which seems to contradict the other gallup surveys, reports 38% of americans are not ready to elect a female president.

even if you use the 90% of people would vote for a qualified woman from their party i dont think you can win a presidential election when at minimum 10% of your party wont support you. the elections these past few years have just been to close. right now a woman candidate has zero room for error or what have to get a cupcake opponent. i think people are "ready" but they want to see a progression from speaker of the house, to VP, to president.
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Postby Coppermine » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:23 pm

j_d_mcnugent wrote:this gallop survey, which seems to contradict the other gallup surveys, reports 38% of americans are not ready to elect a female president.

even if you use the 90% of people would vote for a qualified woman from their party i dont think you can win a presidential election when at minimum 10% of your party wont support you. the elections these past few years have just been to close. right now a woman candidate has zero room for error or what have to get a cupcake opponent. i think people are "ready" but they want to see a progression from speaker of the house, to VP, to president.


Well my poll says the same thing in a different way; the New York Times says that 38% of americans "aren't ready for a woman president" but spins it into a positive by using the stat that over 90% would vote for a woman president from their party who is qualified (the joke is the "who is qualified" part :-D ).

What that poll failed to indicate, is that 89% of those people yelled "NOT!" after they answered yes.

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Postby ThatDude » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:34 pm

slomo007 wrote:Prepare for higher taxes. :-o

Honestly I was hoping for Democratic control of the house to go along with a Republican Senate (or vice versa). But, considering there is a good chance the next President will also be Democratic, I think we're about to see an extreme shift in our government (from red to blue) and I think one party having all of the control is a very bad idea...especially if they're democrats. :-o


An extreme shift is sorely needed.

Higher taxes are most certainly on their way, but only for the richest 10-15% of the country. Ya know, the ones Bush gave all the tax breaks to.
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Postby raiders_umpire » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:36 pm

Coppermine wrote:The Senate must confirm Gates though; that'll be interesting.




It will be the Senate that is in play right now though, not the one in January. His hearing should come up early December, and I imagine the Democrats will be so happy that Rummy is gone, that Gates will probably be voted right in.



As far as yesterdays happenings, I am excited the Democrats won over the House. I have never liked the idea of one party holding the trio of Senate, House, and President at one time. Hopefully now some work can get done with the legislative and executive branches split.

As far as the 08 President race.
1. I will not vote for Hillary as I am not ready for a woman President yet.
2. I will not vote for Edwards, especially after he basically fled NC after becoming our Senator 8 years ago.
3. I will not vote for a Bush, as I surely hope the rest of that family does not want to President either.


I only hope that 2 good candidates come forward so I don't have to vote for the Green party or whichever middle tier party is on the ballot in 08.
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Postby Amazinz » Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:36 pm

Watch the non-voting segment of our society come out in droves as soon as there is a female candidate. I am inclined to believe we are still not ready for a female candidate. Also, despite all the talk, I still doubt that the Democrats have the yams (or the Republicans for that matter) to run a female out there next election. Kudos to them if they do...

... although I won't be voting for her. ;-)
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Postby Coppermine » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:02 pm

Jim Webb won Virginia; Democrats control the Senate.
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Postby acsguitar » Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:10 pm

Sweet evil now sits in the backseat!!
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Postby Art Vandelay » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:01 pm

In honor of Rumsfeld's resignation: A Career Retrospective

"I would not say that the future is necessarily less predictable than the past. I think the past was not predictable when it started."

"We do know of certain knowledge that he [Osama Bin Laden] is either in Afghanistan, or in some other country, or dead."

"We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." –on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction

"Death has a tendency to encourage a depressing view of war."

"Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit crimes and do bad things." –on looting in Iraq after the U.S. invasion, adding "stuff happens"

"As you know, you go to war with the army you have, not the army you might want or wish to have at a later time."

"I am not going to give you a number for it because it's not my business to do intelligent work." -asked to estimate the number of Iraqi insurgents while testifying before Congress

"I believe what I said yesterday. I don't know what I said, but I know what I think, and, well, I assume it's what I said."

"Needless to say, the President is correct. Whatever it was he said."

"Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know."

"If I said yes, that would then suggest that that might be the only place where it might be done which would not be accurate, necessarily accurate. It might also not be inaccurate, but I'm disinclined to mislead anyone."

"There's another way to phrase that and that is that the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. It is basically saying the same thing in a different way. Simply because you do not have evidence that something does exist does not mean that you have evidence that it doesn't exist." -on Iraq's weapons of mass destruction

"It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." -in Feb. 2003

"Well, um, you know, something's neither good nor bad but thinking makes it so, I suppose, as Shakespeare said."

"Secretary Powell and I agree on every single issue that has ever been before this administration except for those instances where Colin's still learning."

"Learn to say 'I don't know.' If used when appropriate, it will be often."

"I don't know what the facts are but somebody's certainly going to sit down with him and find out what he knows that they may not know, and make sure he knows what they know that he may not know."

"I'm not into this detail stuff. I'm more concepty."

"I don't do quagmires."

"I don't do diplomacy."

"I don't do foreign policy."

"I don't do predictions."

"I don't do numbers."

"I don't do book reviews."

"Now, settle down, settle down. Hell, I'm an old man, it's early in the morning and I'm gathering my thoughts here."

"If I know the answer I'll tell you the answer, and if I don't, I'll just respond, cleverly."
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Postby acsguitar » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:34 pm

"It is unknowable how long that conflict [the war in Iraq] will last. It could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months." -in Feb. 2003


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You know...these quotes...or words you typed...are in fact words that may or may not tell us something...whatever they tell us though you typed it right above.
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