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Postby raiders_umpire » Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:53 am

They don't play in the South, so it is hard for me to root for them unless they are playing the hated New York or Canadian teams. Personally I don't care who wins as long as the series goes 7 games. ;-D
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Postby Melo255 » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:53 pm

For me it's easy. I think they are one of the most boring teams I've ever seen play. They don't have anyone I like or like to watch, even Pujols isn't exciting to watch just clinical. That and the fact that I think they just aren't very good makes me have kind of a feeling of disgust knowing they are one win from winning the series.

If it was the Cardinals of 2 years ago when Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds all had MVP years, were fun to watch and actually were arguably the best team in baseball well then I'd like them fine...unless they were playing the Sox again.
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Postby DK » Fri Oct 27, 2006 12:58 pm

Melo255 wrote:If it was the Cardinals of 2 years ago when Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds all had MVP years, were fun to watch and actually were arguably the best team in baseball well then I'd like them fine...unless they were playing the Sox again.


This is how I see it, too. It seems to me that the Cardinals' best years are past them - the 100-win seasons are long gone in this era. So to me, it's like they're getting their prize long after they deserved it. They had their chance and blew it, and now the Cards are just getting lucky past their prime.

This is in addition to the fact that they handed us one of the toughest postseason losses in history to stomach. :-P
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Postby acsguitar » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:16 pm

DK wrote:
Melo255 wrote:If it was the Cardinals of 2 years ago when Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds all had MVP years, were fun to watch and actually were arguably the best team in baseball well then I'd like them fine...unless they were playing the Sox again.


This is how I see it, too. It seems to me that the Cardinals' best years are past them - the 100-win seasons are long gone in this era. So to me, it's like they're getting their prize long after they deserved it. They had their chance and blew it, and now the Cards are just getting lucky past their prime.

This is in addition to the fact that they handed us one of the toughest postseason losses in history to stomach. :-P


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Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:31 pm

Truth be told I'm glad not many people gave the Cards a chance. And I'm happy that there still isn't that many people jumping on the bandwagon. Are they peaking at the right time? Absolutely. Did most baseball fans and writers underestimate them. Absolutely.

I don't care about them being the underdogs. I don't care about them getting respect. I don't care if anyone likes the players, the manager, the city or the stadium. I don't care if anyone thinks they are boring, lucky, or overachieving. All I care about is one more win. :-)
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Postby BritSox » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:33 pm

The '87 Twins were a worse team. They actually allowed more runs than they scored in the regular season, didn't they?
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Postby Tavish » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:06 pm

What does it take to be an inspiring underdog story?

3 consecutive NL Central Titles
5 of the last 7 Central Titles
NL Pennant two years ago
The reigning NL MVP
The reigning NL Cy Young winner
After 150 games only the two NY teams had bigger leads in their division.
4 of the first 5 hitters have played in multiple All-Star games.
More playoff experience than any postseason team other than the Yankees.


Not quite the circumstances I look for in a Cinderella team.
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Postby BritSox » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:13 pm

Tavish wrote:What does it take to be an inspiring underdog story?

3 consecutive NL Central Titles
5 of the last 7 Central Titles
NL Pennant two years ago
The reigning NL MVP
The reigning NL Cy Young winner
After 150 games only the two NY teams had bigger leads in their division.
4 of the first 5 hitters have played in multiple All-Star games.
More playoff experience than any postseason team other than the Yankees.


Not quite the circumstances I look for in a Cinderella team.


Only won 83 games
All their best players banged up to varying degrees
A rookie and a guy who was cut loose by another team after being terrible starting series games.
A rookie closer.
Beat two heavily-favored teams to get there.
Played 7 hard games in the LCS as opposed to their opponents sweeping and taking a week off.
A cast of 'little guys' like Yadi, Eckstein, Duncan coming up big for them.

That DOES look like a cinderella story to me. You can spin it how you want.


I personally thought everyone trying to make out that the heavy favorite Tigers were the cinderella story was even worse. The Cards were clearly the underdog of the two. Hence the poll with the Rams/Patriots. To even mention that one shows how few people had faith in STL before the series.
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Postby RynMan » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:17 pm

slomo007 wrote:Who honestly likes Eckstein, besides Cardinal fans.


Well, he is Barry Bonds' favourite player. :-D
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Postby Big Pimpin » Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:21 pm

RynMan wrote:
slomo007 wrote:Who honestly likes Eckstein, besides Cardinal fans.


Well, he is Barry Bonds' favourite player. :-D


I also heard that the Cubs are very interested in trading for Eckstein.
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