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Re: Carlos Beltran in the winter of 2006/2007

Postby chadlincoln » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:33 pm

Y`s Guy wrote:Okay....

How many times will Carlos wake up in a cold sweat?
How many times will Carlos wake up screaming in the night?
How bad will the next few months be?

The man just became a goat the size of mastadon.
You can't blame one guy for the loss. They only scored 1 run. Where was Pedro?
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Postby Y`s Guy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:16 pm

His 3 best pitches were all to Beltran in a row


His best pitch may have been the one that fell off the table for strike three looking to Cliffy "I'm not up to bunt" Floyd. That was an amazing pitch.
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Postby Coppermine » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:21 pm

Y`s Guy wrote:
His 3 best pitches were all to Beltran in a row


His best pitch may have been the one that fell off the table for strike three looking to Cliffy "I'm not up to bunt" Floyd. That was an amazing pitch.


Couldn't agree more; although called strike 2 to Floyd was about a foot and a half above the strike zone.

That said, it was a dumb move by Randolph in my opinion and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Bunt!!!!!
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Re: Carlos Beltran in the winter of 2006/2007

Postby Strasil42 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:26 pm

chadlincoln wrote:
Y`s Guy wrote:Okay....

How many times will Carlos wake up in a cold sweat?
How many times will Carlos wake up screaming in the night?
How bad will the next few months be?

The man just became a goat the size of mastadon.
You can't blame one guy for the loss.


Try telling that to the ARod critics.

I think people tend to forget that in baseball failing 7 out of 10 times is considered a success.
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Postby acsguitar » Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:51 pm

Coppermine wrote:
Y`s Guy wrote:
His 3 best pitches were all to Beltran in a row


His best pitch may have been the one that fell off the table for strike three looking to Cliffy "I'm not up to bunt" Floyd. That was an amazing pitch.


Couldn't agree more; although called strike 2 to Floyd was about a foot and a half above the strike zone.

That said, it was a dumb move by Randolph in my opinion and I'm surprised more people aren't talking about it. Bunt!!!!!


Yea they should've bunted definitly.... So should have Torre...people get obsessed by power
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Postby Y`s Guy » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:01 pm

...although called strike 2 to Floyd was about a foot and a half above the strike zone.


You know what's funny, Cop? That pitch you refer to, if I remember right, was below the letters. THAT WAS A STRIKE BACK IN THE DAY!!! Remember the knees to the letters strikezone? Today the pitchers have been whittled to get the ball into an area from the navel to the crotch.

That first called strike was a strike I thought. A good old-fashioned strike. ;-D
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Re: Carlos Beltran in the winter of 2006/2007

Postby mikekim2121 » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:44 pm

DK wrote:Shut up and stop bringing A-Rod into every conversation.
It's sickening.

Go away.


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Postby Philliebuster » Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:44 pm

I have no problem with the way Carlos Beltran played this post season.
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Postby StarsNPinstripes » Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:13 pm

dyuen87 wrote:Beltran wont get nearly as much heat as Randolph will for not going to Wagner in that spot.


Respectfully disagree with this point.First, Wagner had been shaky all series and if the HR Molina had connected was off of Wagner believe me Willie would be getting raked through the coals. Also, who knew how long this game would have gone.You can't burn one of your top relievers for just one inning.

As for Beltran, I thought he should have taken a swing on Strike 3 just to at least get a piece of that ball just to keep the AB going;Having said this, he was absolutely schooled by Wainwright & even if he had swung who's to say he would've made contact.

When a guy who had been getting rocked all year(O.Perez) gives you a chance to win, one of the most spectacular post-season catches is made(Endy Chavez) & your team still doesn't win you just file it under the not meant to be column.Mets put forth a great effort, it just wasn't in the cards(no pun intended).
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Postby Amazinz » Sat Oct 21, 2006 2:42 pm

I wouldn't have bunted in that situation either. Randolph made the right call. The Mets took their best shot in that situation and came up short. I can live with that. Giving the Cardinals an out in that situation would be tough to stomach. BP's analysis of run expectancy over the last 10 seasons supports the idea that the value of a bunt in that situation is at best neglibible.
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