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Postby Madison » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:35 pm

So signing Loaiza instead of some actual hitters is Macha's fault?

Interesting. :-?


I'd be willing to give him a shot here in Texas. ;-D
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Postby 1337_Dude » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:39 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.

They should get the first clown manager. Whenever they have a bad game he can throw some pies at the other team, or when a ref makes a bad call he rolls out and gets him with selzter water. It'd be amazing.
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Postby Havok1517 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:40 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.


They should sign Dusty Baker but give all in game decisions to the bench coach and the pitching coach. He's great with players at least but a horrible ingame manager in every aspect.
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Postby Absolutely Adequate » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:47 pm

Havok1517 wrote:
Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.


They should sign Dusty Baker but give all in game decisions to the bench coach and the pitching coach. He's great with players at least but a horrible ingame manager in every aspect.


You know, I think you're probably kidding but it might just work... Well, in theory.

If they could tell Dusty exactly what to do - starting with pitch counts - and if he'd follow them, he'd be a great Oakland manager. He's a good guy. All he'd have to do is follow Beane's instructions and he'd be the manager Oakland wants.
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Postby chadlincoln » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:53 pm

bellings wrote:Sure, let's fire the manager of 2nd place team in the AL. Yeah, that makes sense.
Too bad the Cubs signed Pinella before this news came out.
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Postby RynMan » Mon Oct 16, 2006 5:54 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.


Those are my thoughts aswell.

Really, I didn't think that Macha was a great manager. He made alot of decisions that I really wasn't sure about. Sure you can point to the team's success, but come on - you can't give him the credit for what the team does on the field. The credit I will give him though, is that he has had to deal with Bradley in a professional way, and get these young guys to believe.
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Postby TheYanks04 » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:17 pm

RynMan wrote:
Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.


Those are my thoughts aswell.

Really, I didn't think that Macha was a great manager. He made alot of decisions that I really wasn't sure about. Sure you can point to the team's success, but come on - you can't give him the credit for what the team does on the field. The credit I will give him though, is that he has had to deal with Bradley in a professional way, and get these young guys to believe.



In other words, you want Art Howe back? They should hire Buck Showwalter. He and Beane would get along real well, lol.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:32 pm

chadlincoln wrote:
bellings wrote:Sure, let's fire the manager of 2nd place team in the AL. Yeah, that makes sense.
Too bad the Cubs signed Pinella before this news came out.


Yep....

So does Girardi go anywhere. I bet Stein is kicking himself in the face for not firing torre right now
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Postby Simulacrum » Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:53 pm

Madison wrote:So signing Loaiza instead of some actual hitters is Macha's fault?

Interesting. :-?


I'd be willing to give him a shot here in Texas. ;-D


Boy, do you ever have some kind of axe to grind with Loaiza. :-B
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 16, 2006 7:00 pm

Absolutely Adequate wrote:
Havok1517 wrote:
Absolutely Adequate wrote:I think what Oakland/Beane need is a do-nothing manager. The kind of guy who keeps the players happy and doesn't insist on diverging from the plan.

I think Macha only fulfilled one of those two obligations.


They should sign Dusty Baker but give all in game decisions to the bench coach and the pitching coach. He's great with players at least but a horrible ingame manager in every aspect.


You know, I think you're probably kidding but it might just work... Well, in theory.

If they could tell Dusty exactly what to do - starting with pitch counts - and if he'd follow them, he'd be a great Oakland manager. He's a good guy. All he'd have to do is follow Beane's instructions and he'd be the manager Oakland wants.
I totally agree but I doubt Baker is willing to be Beane's puppet.
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