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Postby J35J » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:32 pm

Based on 5x5, redraft league.

Like I said before.... this will change at least a little come time for next season as we find out correct lineups, trades, etc. Anyway, it is what it is for right now.....

As you get past the top 20 or so the order becomes less and less important and you pick more based on need or even personal favs because the order could go in anyway. This being a longer list I didn't take as much time to tweak everyone exactly where I think they should go but they're close enough for right now.


1. Carlos Beltran
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Vladimir Guerrero
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Lance Berkman
6. Carl Crawford
7. Bobby Abreu
8. Carlos Lee
9. Grady Sizemore
10. Jason Bay
11. Matt Holliday
12. Andruw Jones
13. Gary Sheffield
14. Hideki Matsui
15. Vernon Wells
16. Jermaine Dye
17. Johnny Damon
18. Ichiro Suzuki
19. Adam Dunn
20. Magglio Ordonez
21. Chone Figgins
22. Nick Swisher
23. Jeff Francoeur
24. Delmon Young
25. Torii Hunter
26. Raul Ibanez
27. Pat Burrell
28. Rocco Baldelli
29. Juan Pierre
30. J.D. Drew
31. Brad Hawpe
32. Jeremy Hermida
33. Jose Guillen
34. Geoff Jenkins
35. Michael Cuddyer
36. Aubrey Huff
37. Kevin Youkilis
38. Carlos Quentin
39. Barry Bonds
40. Brian Giles
41. Mike Cameron
42. Craig Monroe
43. Coco Crisp
44. Scott Podsednik
45. Jim Edmonds
46. Gary Matthews Jr.
47. Eric Byrnes
48. Emil Brown
49. Curtis Granderson
50. Ken Griffey Jr.

others (no particular order)
Shawn Green
Aaron Rowand
Milton Bradley
David DeJesus
Chris B. Young
Jacque Jones
Randy Winn
Jonny Gomes
Austin Kearns
Willy Taveras
Garret Anderson
Andre Ethier
Matt Kemp
Chris Duncan
Nick Markakis
Juan Rivera
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 16, 2006 12:49 pm

Looks pretty good. I'm really big on Baldelli next year so I give him a healthy bump. Rios, Alou, Willingham, should be on the list somewhere. And so should Roberts and Patterson if Taveras makes it.
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Re: My top 50 Outfielders

Postby BigLebowski » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:04 pm

J35J wrote:Based on 5x5, redraft league.

Like I said before.... this will change at least a little come time for next season as we find out correct lineups, trades, etc. Anyway, it is what it is for right now.....

As you get past the top 20 or so the order becomes less and less important and you pick more based on need or even personal favs because the order could go in anyway. This being a longer list I didn't take as much time to tweak everyone exactly where I think they should go but they're close enough for right now.


1. Carlos Beltran
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Vladimir Guerrero
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Lance Berkman
6. Carl Crawford
7. Bobby Abreu
8. Carlos Lee
9. Grady Sizemore
10. Jason Bay
11. Matt Holliday -- ;-D a spot or two
12. Andruw Jones
13. Gary Sheffield
14. Hideki Matsui -- :-t a couple of spots
15. Vernon Wells -- ;-D a couple of spots or two
16. Jermaine Dye
17. Johnny Damon -- :-t too high
18. Ichiro Suzuki -- ;-D up a bit
19. Adam Dunn
20. Magglio Ordonez
21. Chone Figgins
22. Nick Swisher
23. Jeff Francoeur -- :-t still not a fan
24. Delmon Young
25. Torii Hunter
26. Raul Ibanez
27. Pat Burrell
28. Rocco Baldelli -- ;-D love him next year
29. Juan Pierre
30. J.D. Drew
31. Brad Hawpe
32. Jeremy Hermida
33. Jose Guillen -- :-t was just horrible..is the problem fixed?
34. Geoff Jenkins
35. Michael Cuddyer
36. Aubrey Huff
37. Kevin Youkilis
38. Carlos Quentin
39. Barry Bonds
40. Brian Giles
41. Mike Cameron
42. Craig Monroe
43. Coco Crisp
44. Scott Podsednik ;-D
45. Jim Edmonds
46. Gary Matthews Jr.
47. Eric Byrnes
48. Emil Brown :-t
49. Curtis Granderson
50. Ken Griffey Jr. ;-D

others (no particular order)
Shawn Green
Aaron Rowand
Milton Bradley
David DeJesus
Chris B. Young
Jacque Jones
Randy Winn
Jonny Gomes
Austin Kearns
Willy Taveras
Garret Anderson
Andre Ethier
Matt Kemp
Chris Duncan ;-D
Nick Markakis
Juan Rivera -- ;-D needs to be higher IMO


Thats with a quick one over.
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Postby J35J » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:10 pm

Pogotheostrich wrote:Looks pretty good. I'm really big on Baldelli next year so I give him a healthy bump. Rios, Alou, Willingham, should be on the list somewhere. And so should Roberts and Patterson if Taveras makes it.



I'm still not sure what to think about Baldelli just yet......

I did forget Rios on this list, I'd put him in the late 20's probably.

I didn't forget Alou..... And I do have Willingham and Alou/Roberts/Patterson in that "other" category just a couple spots down further, but really they are all interchangeable for me right now.

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Re: My top 50 Outfielders

Postby J35J » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:18 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
J35J wrote:
1. Carlos Beltran
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Vladimir Guerrero
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Lance Berkman
6. Carl Crawford
7. Bobby Abreu
8. Carlos Lee
9. Grady Sizemore
10. Jason Bay
11. Matt Holliday -- ;-D a spot or two
12. Andruw Jones
13. Gary Sheffield
14. Hideki Matsui -- :-t a couple of spots
15. Vernon Wells -- ;-D a couple of spots or two
16. Jermaine Dye
17. Johnny Damon -- :-t too high
18. Ichiro Suzuki -- ;-D up a bit
19. Adam Dunn
20. Magglio Ordonez
21. Chone Figgins
22. Nick Swisher
23. Jeff Francoeur -- :-t still not a fan
24. Delmon Young
25. Torii Hunter
26. Raul Ibanez
27. Pat Burrell
28. Rocco Baldelli -- ;-D love him next year
29. Juan Pierre
30. J.D. Drew
31. Brad Hawpe
32. Jeremy Hermida
33. Jose Guillen -- :-t was just horrible..is the problem fixed?
34. Geoff Jenkins
35. Michael Cuddyer
36. Aubrey Huff
37. Kevin Youkilis
38. Carlos Quentin
39. Barry Bonds
40. Brian Giles
41. Mike Cameron
42. Craig Monroe
43. Coco Crisp
44. Scott Podsednik ;-D
45. Jim Edmonds
46. Gary Matthews Jr.
47. Eric Byrnes
48. Emil Brown :-t
49. Curtis Granderson
50. Ken Griffey Jr. ;-D

others (no particular order)
Shawn Green
Aaron Rowand
Milton Bradley
David DeJesus
Chris B. Young
Jacque Jones
Randy Winn
Jonny Gomes
Austin Kearns
Willy Taveras
Garret Anderson
Andre Ethier
Matt Kemp
Chris Duncan ;-D
Nick Markakis
Juan Rivera -- ;-D needs to be higher IMO


Thats with a quick one over.



Matsui is rock solid for .300 22-25 100-110rbi 100runs so I like him right where he is.

Wells is still a little up in the air for me as far as, is he going to continue on like this year or is he going to be fairly mediocore like years past.

Damon will more than likely end up with a few more runs than Ichiro, he will double him in HRs, score 20 more rbi. Ichiro may double Damon in SB and have about .25-.35 better avg. I'd say they are real close!

I thought Guillen was just injured last year? I guess I need more info there.......?

Duncan is like a career .260 minor leaguer. I think he has some legit power but he may struggle to hit above. .250-.260 if he gets regular time next year.


Anyway, just some of my thoughts about your thoughts..... ;-D


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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:44 pm

J35J wrote:[I didn't forget Alou.....

Yes, he is old and brittle but the number are still there. 22 HR, 74 RBI in 98 games. .352 OBP, .571 SLG. He at least worth mentioning in the others.
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Postby Another Blown Save » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:48 pm

Hawpe seems high.
Out of curiosity, what do you have Hawpe projected for?
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Postby J35J » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:55 pm

Another Blown Save wrote:Hawpe seems high.
Out of curiosity, what do you have Hawpe projected for?



you know I thought the same thing right as I started to post this. I went back and double checked his minor league numbers and everything and hes had a real solid minor league career as well as a solid season this year. Also being in there with Holliday and Atkins he could produce fairly well again in '07. I think he could be anywhere from 25th-40th in OF rankings just because I have all those guys producing similar numbers.

.284
24
86
75
5

Overall pretty similar to last year but if he gets more ABs his numbers will be slightly better as he "only" had 499 ABs last year.

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Re: My top 50 Outfielders

Postby BigLebowski » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:23 pm

J35J wrote:
BigLebowski wrote:
J35J wrote:
1. Carlos Beltran
2. Alfonso Soriano
3. Vladimir Guerrero
4. Manny Ramirez
5. Lance Berkman
6. Carl Crawford
7. Bobby Abreu
8. Carlos Lee
9. Grady Sizemore
10. Jason Bay
11. Matt Holliday -- ;-D a spot or two
12. Andruw Jones
13. Gary Sheffield
14. Hideki Matsui -- :-t a couple of spots
15. Vernon Wells -- ;-D a couple of spots or two
16. Jermaine Dye
17. Johnny Damon -- :-t too high
18. Ichiro Suzuki -- ;-D up a bit
19. Adam Dunn
20. Magglio Ordonez
21. Chone Figgins
22. Nick Swisher
23. Jeff Francoeur -- :-t still not a fan
24. Delmon Young
25. Torii Hunter
26. Raul Ibanez
27. Pat Burrell
28. Rocco Baldelli -- ;-D love him next year
29. Juan Pierre
30. J.D. Drew
31. Brad Hawpe
32. Jeremy Hermida
33. Jose Guillen -- :-t was just horrible..is the problem fixed?
34. Geoff Jenkins
35. Michael Cuddyer
36. Aubrey Huff
37. Kevin Youkilis
38. Carlos Quentin
39. Barry Bonds
40. Brian Giles
41. Mike Cameron
42. Craig Monroe
43. Coco Crisp
44. Scott Podsednik ;-D
45. Jim Edmonds
46. Gary Matthews Jr.
47. Eric Byrnes
48. Emil Brown :-t
49. Curtis Granderson
50. Ken Griffey Jr. ;-D

others (no particular order)
Shawn Green
Aaron Rowand
Milton Bradley
David DeJesus
Chris B. Young
Jacque Jones
Randy Winn
Jonny Gomes
Austin Kearns
Willy Taveras
Garret Anderson
Andre Ethier
Matt Kemp
Chris Duncan ;-D
Nick Markakis
Juan Rivera -- ;-D needs to be higher IMO


Thats with a quick one over.



Matsui is rock solid for .300 22-25 100-110rbi 100runs so I like him right where he is.

Wells is still a little up in the air for me as far as, is he going to continue on like this year or is he going to be fairly mediocore like years past.

Damon will more than likely end up with a few more runs than Ichiro, he will double him in HRs, score 20 more rbi. Ichiro may double Damon in SB and have about .25-.35 better avg. I'd say they are real close!

I thought Guillen was just injured last year? I guess I need more info there.......?

Duncan is like a career .260 minor leaguer. I think he has some legit power but he may struggle to hit above. .250-.260 if he gets regular time next year.

Anyway, just some of my thoughts about your thoughts..... ;-D


Jason


You have Francoeur at #23 and he is a hyped up Duncan. I like Duncan's lineup better than Francs too.

Guillen was hurt, but even when he wasn't he just plain stunk...I know I had him on many of my teams last year.

Matsui is rock solid but nothing spectacular, I think I'd rather get someone with more upside where you have him ranked. I'm not saying drop him to 30, but I'd take a couple of other guys over him.

I'd also still take Ichiro over Damon 10 times out of 10. If I could get Ichiro for Damon straight up I'd do that trade every time.
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Re: My top 50 Outfielders

Postby J35J » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:37 pm

BigLebowski wrote:
You have Francoeur at #23 and he is a hyped up Duncan. I like Duncan's lineup better than Francs too.

Solid comparison, I just think Francoeur has prove a little more than Duncan has and doing it at a couple years younger in age. I'm also not even fully sure that Duncan has a position locked up next year like Francoeur does??? Just one of those things I will need to keep an eye on when lineups and all the hot stove talks roll around.

Guillen was hurt, but even when he wasn't he just plain stunk...I know I had him on many of my teams last year.

He may have stunk, maybe because he was hurt, maybe not. But he has two consecutive solid years before last so I can see a solid rebound from last year. Just another thing to keep any eye on!

Matsui is rock solid but nothing spectacular, I think I'd rather get someone with more upside where you have him ranked. I'm not saying drop him to 30, but I'd take a couple of other guys over him.

There might be a guy or two out there that I would take over Matsui but I like knowing that I can get .300 20+ 100+ 100+ without losing sleep about it!

I'd also still take Ichiro over Damon 10 times out of 10. If I could get Ichiro for Damon straight up I'd do that trade every time.

I'd say with these two its going to depend on if I need those extra SBs or not.



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