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Postby wrveres » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:52 pm

Amazinz wrote:Sheffield (black) was basically given a free pass by the NY media, partly because they were too busy tar and feathering Giambi (white). It relaxed substantially after his public apology and it dissipated entirely after his offensive resurgence but therein lies the rub. There are a lot of ignoble reasons why the media and we as fans choose to crucify some and pardon others but I do not believe race is one of them. I am sure there are racists who enjoy persecuting Bonds because he is black but I believe they are by far the minority.


I don't deny it is in the minority, and you make a fair point about Giambi/Sheff. But I have had a SF Reporter tell me that this was a trully a motivating factor with Bonds. I have seen many a SF and LA reporter make the same charges against the powers that be in Chicago. I have seen the 49ers mock as many races as possible, and not see anything wrong with it for a year. If you go to SF to this day, it is still basically segregated and separated by the bay.

I don't understand how poeple can turn a blind eye quite honestly, and say it doesn't have some mitigating factor. But the minute you mention race, you are the bad guy for playing the "race card."

I got news for you, racism is alive and well and this country, except of course in the media ;-7

When was the last time all three major networks covered a missing minority child. Nope. Greta Van Sustern, only goes live to Mississpi for the missing pretty white girl .. I don't make the rules and I am just pointing out the obvious.

Now I can't tell you why the Yankees seemingly get a pass either, they just do. Its odd. Maybe Selig is in play here, I don't know. They are of course the face of baseball. Maybe it is because they were allready under a large contract, or something like that, but from an organization that requires your hair to be just so, its ok to stick a needle in your ass?
Maybe Clemens and Pettitte get a pass because they were once Yankees, and if so Bonds should sign there for the Major league minimum.

Anything to remove the bamboo spikes he has shoved in his toes.
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Postby wrveres » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:57 pm

Keith Olberman said this spring, he wished Barry Bonds would just quit breathing.

I some how doubt he would say the same thing about the Rocket
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Postby thedude » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:23 pm

wrveres wrote:
The_Met_Threat wrote:Id like to see if all the Bonds haters now turn into Clemens haters, Pettite haters, etc.


it will never happen ..
A) They are white.
B) They played for the Yankees
C) ESPN is giving this story very little play.



Because Big Mac is black, right?
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:41 pm

One more example why Angelos must go. Doesn't look like there is a whole lot to be proud of in Bawlmer. The New Oriole Way.
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Postby JTWood » Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:35 pm

Yay! A steroid thread that's degenerated into a Barry Bonds discussion - again!!!

Can we have another one of these in a couple more weeks, please? Please, please, please???

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Postby Kurtangletn » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:05 pm

What a shock, I'd say Clemens started early too...i'd say near the end of his sox tenure..

Pettite basically got it from clemens, and came back into camp throwing 3-5mph faster, and was alot bigger. Magic man?

Tejada is really a "No kidding?" thing but i still want to make myself think he is clean...
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Postby RugbyD » Sun Oct 01, 2006 4:30 pm

wrveres wrote:what exactly did Sammy do again?
Other than pure speculation by a bitter Chicago media, I have yet to see anybody come forward and claim to have injected, sold, bought from, watched or have first hand account of Sammy doing even Creatine. .. not one.

He corked a bat. Whooptee doo. He didn't hit 60 plus homers three times with a corked bat. I can promise you that.
Plenty of people have corked a bat. It didn't get them run out of town ..

what did he do.

he curiously forgot how to speak a language he had been immersed in for over a decade. the silence was deafening.
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Postby mweir145 » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:21 pm

I'm really surprised at the lack of media coverage this story has gotten so far. You have to wonder if it would be different if it involved Bonds instead of Clemens... :-?
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Postby JTWood » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:22 pm

mweir145 wrote:I'm really surprised at the lack of media coverage this story has gotten so far. You have to wonder if it would be different if it involved Bonds instead of Clemens... :-?

See, I think it deserves more coverage because it involves Clemens.
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Postby Amazinz » Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:27 pm

mweir145 wrote:I'm really surprised at the lack of media coverage this story has gotten so far. You have to wonder if it would be different if it involved Bonds instead of Clemens... :-?

I think it would absolutely receive more media coverage if it was about Bonds. The media definitely despises Bonds because he's rejected them. I just don't agree that it's racially motivated. If that was the case they would be taking it to Sosa, Tejada, Sheffield, etc., the way they do Bonds.
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