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Postby kentx12 » Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:31 pm

Who will win the award this year? Noone really stands out. Ortiz has 20 wins but a high Era, Scmidt has had a great year but not enough wins, Gagne has been awesome but will a reliver win? there have been others but the 3 of them stand out and all have something against there favor. Just looking for opinions.
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Postby Madison » Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:41 pm

Gagne or Prior will win and Schmidt will finish 3rd. Ortiz might get 4th in the voting.
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Postby DGroundhog » Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:40 am

As much as I 'd like to have both Cy Young winners on my roto team, I couldn't vote for Prior over Schmidt. Prior was best after getting his little rest and getting his arm re-vitalized. Schmidt didn't get that break. Oriz doesn't make my top 3.

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Postby Jack-In-A-Box » Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:00 am

i know most ppl dont think a RP should win CY but what Gagne has done for the leagues worst offensive team makes what he's done for his team even more important. If i had to choose i'd go with Gagne for Cy. Without Gagne, LA isnt even close to be in the hunt for the playoffs. Then Prior,Schimdt and maybe even Wagner will get some attention along with Ortiz.
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:40 am

I'm gonna have to go with Jack

1. Gagne
2. Prior
3. Schmidt
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Postby EugeneStyles » Mon Sep 22, 2003 9:44 am

Yeah, all things being equal, I wouldn't want them to give it to a reliever, but all things are not equal. No pitcher in baseball has been better than Gagne this year. He's been amazing, and I think he deserves to win it.

After that, I'd probably give the nod to Schmidt over Prior, partly due to a sympathy vote (and Schmidt did have a short break due to the bereavement list... in fact, I think they created it specifically for him, IIRC). Ortiz is definitely 4th in my mind.
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Postby eftda » Mon Sep 22, 2003 10:15 am

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Postby jskidder » Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:53 pm

i give the nod to schmidt. his era and whip #'s are unreal. and his team has been dominant. prior is a close 2nd, but i think jason just deserves it. noone has been dominant like he has over the last 2 years. if it weren't for his poor run support this wouldn't even be a question. if schmidt had the same #'s with say 18 or 19 wins no one would doubt he should win it. same reasoning for ranking ortiz 4th. gagne has been great, but his team is going to miss the playoffs and i am against giving it to a reliever.
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Postby LCBOY » Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:30 pm

Here are all the Cy Young award winners who won less than 20 games (starters only):

Tom Seaver (1973) 19-10, 2.08 ERA
Fernando Valenzuela (1981), 13-7, 2.48 ERA*
Rick Sutcliffe (1984), 16-1, ERA 2.69
Mike Scott, (1986), 18-10, ERA 2.22
Roger Clemens (1991) 18-10, ERA 2.62
Greg Maddux (1994), 16-6, ERA 2.36*
David Cone (1994), 16-5, ERA 2.94*
Greg Maddux (1995), 19-2, ERA 1.62*
Randy Johnson (1995), 18-2, ERA 2.48*
Pedro Martinez (1997), 17-8, ERA 1.90
Randy Johnson (1999), 17-9, ERA 2.48
Pedro Martinez (2000), 18-6, ERA 1.74
Randy Johnson (2000), 19-7, ERA 2.64

*shortened season

So there have been 13 Cy Youngs given to pitchers that won less than 20 games. However five of them came in shortened seasons. However I don't see giving the Cy Young to a 17 game winner as a problem. So either Prior or Schmidt are strong candidates fo the Cy Young.
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