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by **TheYanks04** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 7:52 pm

Hmmm. I say we give the vote to Don Zimmer to decide.

What ya think Zim?

by **raiders_umpire** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:12 pm

Pedro will be a first ballot HOFer, but I imagine he will be back next year.

by **Amazinz** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:22 pm

Zimmer wouldn't want another beat down. He'd vote him in. :-D

Don't you think this thread is a bit silly? This is like asking whether or not Clemens belongs in the HoF. Most of us are going to agree and we probably don't want to hear from those who wouldn't. ;-)

by **TheYanks04** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 8:26 pm

Visualization of the class of Pedro Martinez...nice.

70 year old man with a gimpy leg and a plate in his head...lets do a head grab and slam.

by **BronXBombers51** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:03 pm

Non-issue. Pedro is in on the first ballot, no ifs, ands or buts about it.

by **The Miner Part 2** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:11 pm

why is a guy with pedros numbers a first ballot hall of famer but bert blyleven isnt even in the hall?

pedro has a great career era, but are there any sp's in the hall with as few wins as he has?

by **Another Blown Save** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:17 pm

The Miner Part 2 wrote:why is a guy with pedros numbers a first ballot hall of famer but bert blyleven isnt even in the hall?

pedro has a great career era, but are there any sp's in the hall with as few wins as he has?

Sandy Koufax

by **nikku88** » Sat Sep 30, 2006 11:43 pm

Easy 1st ballot. His peak was insane and even if he never pitches again, his career wasn't too short either.

by **Melo255** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:45 am

TheYanks04 wrote:Visualization of the class of Pedro Martinez...nice.

70 year old man with a gimpy leg and a plate in his head...lets do a head grab and slam.

Visualization of the class of Pedro Martinez...nice.
Visualization of the class of Don Zimmer...not so much.

70 year old man with a gimpy leg and plate in his head...charges one of the smallest and most fragile pitchers in the game with no personal provocation whatsoever and Pedro simply let's Zimmer's momentum continue, in a move that a bullfighter would love, instead of punching him in the face - which Zim deserved and unquestionably should have expected for charging him.

I love Zim but there's a reason he apologized. He was at fault.

by **TheYanks04** » Sun Oct 01, 2006 1:10 am

Melo255 wrote:
TheYanks04 wrote:Visualization of the class of Pedro Martinez...nice.

70 year old man with a gimpy leg and a plate in his head...lets do a head grab and slam.

Visualization of the class of Pedro Martinez...nice.
Visualization of the class of Don Zimmer...not so much.

70 year old man with a gimpy leg and plate in his head...charges one of the smallest and most fragile pitchers in the game with no personal provocation whatsoever and Pedro simply let's Zimmer's momentum continue, in a move that a bullfighter would love, instead of punching him in the face - which Zim deserved and unquestionably should have expected for charging him.

I love Zim but there's a reason he apologized. He was at fault.

Poor fragile Pedro is 5 feet 11 inches tall and 180 pounds. That may be small compared to Clemens or most other MLB pitchers. It is still bigger than the average male.

Simply let his momentum carry him...come on. Most people can walk faster than Zim can run. Zim was wrong. It still does not make what Pedro did anything but what it is. He is a punk that has hidden behind his team mates for his entire career and the only person he has ever "fought" over it is a 70 year old man with a gimpy leg and a plate in his head.

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