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Postby Mreater71 » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:33 am

AL MVP: D. Ortiz
AL CY Young: Johan Santana
AL ROY: Justin Verlander
AL Comeback: Frank Thomas

NL MVP: Ryan Howard
NL CY Young: Carpenter
NL ROY: Dan Uggla
NL Comeback: Nomar

Frank Thomas will get some votes for the MVP award, but will not get enough to win it. He has been the key for Oakland making the playoffs, but I just don't see him winning it. Now, if it was up to me, then "Big Hurt" would be the MVP.
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Postby Pstater71 » Thu Sep 28, 2006 1:43 am

AL MVP: Mauer
AL CY Young: Johan Santana
AL ROY: Justin Verlander
AL Comeback: Frank Thomas

NL MVP: Albert Pujols
NL CY Young: Webb
NL ROY: Dan Uggla
NL Comeback: Beltran
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Postby Philly_05 » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:00 am

AL MVP - Jeter
AL CY Young - Johan
AL ROY - Papelbon
AL Comeback - Thomas

NL MVP - Howard
AL CY Young - Carp
NL ROY - Zimmerman
NL Comeback - Nomar
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Postby davidmarver » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:16 am

AL MVP: Derek Jeter
AL Cy Young: Johan Santana
AL Rookie of the Year: Jered Weaver

NL MVP: Albert Pujols
NL Cy Young: Trevor Hoffman ;-)
NL Rookie of the Year: Ryan Zimmerman
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Postby PlayingWithFire » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:42 am

AL MVP: Johan Santana
AL Cy Young: Johan Santana
AL ROY: Jon Papelbon
AL Comeback player: Frank Thomas

NL ROY: Albert Pujols
NL Cy Young: Brandon Webb
NL ROY: Josh Johnson
NL Comebacker: Nomar Garciapparra
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Postby superfly » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:58 am

AL MVP: Justin Morneau
AL Cy: Johan Santana
AL ROY: Jon Papelbon
AL Comeback: Frank Thomas

NL MVP: Ryan Howard
NL Cy: Brandon Webb
NL ROY: Hanley Ramirez
NL Comeback: Nomar
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Postby BronXBombers51 » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:18 am

brewcrew4you wrote:AL MVP: Should be Ortiz/Santana/Thomas
will be Jeter :-t


You people are hilarious. Normally, I'd agree that Jeter is overrated. However, you guys are short-changing him immensely.

If you are going to play the 'MVP must come from a winning team' card, then Jeter is the American League MVP. If you don't want to play that card, then the MVP is Hafner.

Derek Jeter....a #2 hitting shortstop....leads the AMERICAN LEAGUE in Runs Created, with 131 this season. Sizemore is 2nd, with 125. Jeter has created more runs for his team than any other player on an American League team this season.

Jeter is FOURTH in the American League in RC/27. He is worth about 8.9 runs per game. Meaning, a lineup consisting of nine Derek Jeters' would score about 8.9 runs per game. The only people ahead of him on this list are Travis Hafner, Manny Ramirez and Jim Thome, all whose teams missed the playoffs. Jeter is worth more runs per game than Ortiz, Dye, Mauer, Morneau, Vlad, etc.

The only thing that hurts Jeter is his OPS. It looks relatively weak, compared to other MVP candidates at .897. Then you take into account that he's a shortstop who hits in the #2 hole, and it's actually quite amazing.

Jeter also leads the league in Win Shares, at 31 for the season. Second place in Mauer at 29.

Anyone who says that it's a joke that Jeter wins the MVP has no idea what they're talking about. Is Jeter overrated most of the time? Yes. But he has had an unbelievable year, and it's about time people give him credit for it. There is no better choice for the AL MVP in 2006 (unless you're in favor of giving it to the best player---winning or losing team).
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Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:01 am

AL MVP: Jeter
AL Cy: Johan Santana
AL ROY: Verlander


NL MVP: Pujols
NL Cy: Webb
NL ROY: Josh Johnson
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Postby superfly » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:30 am

BronXBombers51 wrote:Derek Jeter....a #2 hitting shortstop....leads the AMERICAN LEAGUE in Runs Created, with 131 this season. Sizemore is 2nd, with 125. Jeter has created more runs for his team than any other player on an American League team this season.


So you think Sizemore should be #2 on MVP balloting? Or even top 10 for that matter? If not, then what's the point of bringing up that stat?

edit: Actually Jeter is second in the league in RC behind Sizemore, but he's third ON HIS OWN TEAM in RC27.
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Postby ScrappyDoo » Thu Sep 28, 2006 9:58 am

AL MVP - Ortiz
AL CY- Santana
AL ROY- Papelbon
AL CPOY- Thomas

NL MVP - Howard
NL CY - Webb
NL ROY - Zimmerman
NL CPOY - Nomar

Ortiz probably wont win MVP but I think he should, hes had a monster year.

Papelbon had one of the best years ever by a closer, but will probably lose to Verlander because he made the playoffs.

Howard should win because of the spark hes provided his team in the playoff chase. If he wasnt on the team they would have gone straight down after trading Abreu. I think Pujols will win however.

If at this point you still think Carpenter is the NL Cy Young than I think you are crazy. Playoff implications have no where near as much influence as they do in the MVP race. Webb has less offensive support and pitches in a hitting park. Hes been by far the most consistent pitcher in the NL and has not missed any time with injury. He has a better ERA in more innings pitched. Carpenter has him in Whip and a slight lead in Ks. And most importantly more wins.

Two weeks ago it was Carpenter who was the obvious choice. But when your teams in a 7 game skid during the heart of the playoff race and you start two games and give up 6 ER both times and cost your team the wins than you are not the Cy Young.
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