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Postby Scoots#5 » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:01 am

i'll tell you a method that will pay off every time if you are willing to stick with it...

you bet (say $10) on two of the three thirds (say 1-12, and 13-24).

you are covering about 65% of the table for a $20 bet. You win two out of three times and you are even... you win moreoften than that and you are ahead. If you are willing to start with about 18-20 times more than you're bet. (say $200 on $10 bets.) i havent seen this fail yet. but dont get greedy and start doubling up - because the house always wins then.

thats my offering on this topic....
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Postby pokerplaya » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:06 am

Scoots#5 wrote:i'll tell you a method that will pay off every time if you are willing to stick with it...

you bet (say $10) on two of the three thirds (say 1-12, and 13-24).

you are covering about 65% of the table for a $20 bet. You win two out of three times and you are even... you win moreoften than that and you are ahead. If you are willing to start with about 18-20 times more than you're bet. (say $200 on $10 bets.) i havent seen this fail yet. but dont get greedy and start doubling up - because the house always wins then.

thats my offering on this topic....


Not for anything, but there is no such thing as a method that will pay off every time. If there was, there would be no such thing as roulette being offered in a casino.
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Postby acsguitar » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:33 am

I liked the asians who would drop like 200 bucks on 15 squares ;-D
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Postby spamnon » Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:14 pm

acsguitar wrote:I liked the asians who would drop like 200 bucks on 15 squares ;-D


word, I concur. anywho, I think I will stay away from the casino. I probably should devote a quarter of my Fantasy Baseball research time towards stock/investing research and I could probably do better then any casino's odds.
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Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:29 pm

acsguitar wrote:I liked the asians who would drop like 200 bucks on 15 squares ;-D


i like playing Baccarat with Asians...i usually just do what they do. except one time i put like $20 on the Player and this old Chinese guy puts like 2K on the Bank...i wanted to pull back but i didnt and i won and he lost...i felt bad cheering for my $20 win

as for Roulette, i rarely play. i know it's bad odds, but i do like to play once in awhile and always just bet 4, 17, 28 each time. i figure either i hit once and walk away or not
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Postby BritSox » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:45 pm

pokerplaya wrote:
Scoots#5 wrote:i'll tell you a method that will pay off every time if you are willing to stick with it...

you bet (say $10) on two of the three thirds (say 1-12, and 13-24).

you are covering about 65% of the table for a $20 bet. You win two out of three times and you are even... you win moreoften than that and you are ahead. If you are willing to start with about 18-20 times more than you're bet. (say $200 on $10 bets.) i havent seen this fail yet. but dont get greedy and start doubling up - because the house always wins then.

thats my offering on this topic....


Not for anything, but there is no such thing as a method that will pay off every time. If there was, there would be no such thing as roulette being offered in a casino.


If you have basically unlimited money, doubling up every time on roulette does work, at least on tables with only one zero. But the winnings are so small relative to the stake, and no one with enough money to do it would consider it worth their time.
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Postby gfantasy » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:03 am

From what I understand, Craps has the best odds in the casino...
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Postby Coppermine » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:31 am

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RugbyD wrote:roulette is a loser's game. I can't think of one more clearly set up to bleed you dry little by little. The only purpose it serves that I can see is to create a social atmosphere where everyone can collectively root against their common fate. I don't mind watching a group of my friends play, but the thought of sitting down myself makes me prefer banging my head against a wall.


Agreed. Roulette, of all the casino games, have the least chance of winning. BlackJack is the only game where you can even come close to evening the odds, however no game is 50/50... in the end, the house always wins.


actually roulette has the best odds of any game at casinos. if youre playing red/black youre just under a 50% favorite to win. not gonna find those odds anywhere else.


I just thought of this, but you also have to figure in the payout as well. Betting Red, Black, Odd or Even results in a 2:1 payout. Betting on a single number, for instance, results in a 35:1 payout (lower the odds, higher the payout and odds of winning a single number bet are 37:1). What's interesting, is that per-dollar bet on roulette, percentages dictate that roulette players lose 5.26% per bet, regardless of what the bet is on. (There is a nauseating formula to go with that statistic I will forego). European roulette is more in the player's favor since there is no double zero (and the zero slots are not consider red or black, odd or even).

One conceivable strategy would be to bet on the ball landing in a red space for a certain number of spins, for example, 38.

There are 18 red spaces on a roulette table with 38 total spaces. Dividing 18 by 38 yields a probability of landing on red of 47.37%. This probability can be used in a binomial distribution and made into an approximate standard normal distribution.

Doing so indicates that, if one were to spin the wheel 38 times, there is a 99% probability that the ball would land on red at least 10 times. There is an 83% probability that in 38 spins, the ball will land on red at least 15 times. Out of 38 spins, there's a 50% chance that 18 will be red.

However, the break-even point is 19 spins, since the bet on red is 2:1, and the probability of 19 red spins in 38 is only 37%. This indicates the difficulty of winning by only betting on red.

The results occur because, as indicated by the 18 divided by 38 equals 47.37% figure, the ball will land on red less than half the time. This percentage applied in the binomial and standard normal distributions creates the vast divide in probability from 18 red spins to 19 red spins out of 38 spins. Basically, it is very unlikely for anyone to spin much more than 18 red spins out of 38 spins.


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Postby Coppermine » Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:38 am

gfantasy wrote:From what I understand, Craps has the best odds in the casino...


Also, craps has the best odds based on pure chance; experienced blackjack players can gain a small mathematical edge based on card counting strategies, but this is becoming increasingly difficult which is leading to a rise in popularity of craps.
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Postby acsguitar » Mon Sep 25, 2006 12:29 pm

Coppermine wrote:
gfantasy wrote:From what I understand, Craps has the best odds in the casino...


Also, craps has the best odds based on pure chance; experienced blackjack players can gain a small mathematical edge based on card counting strategies, but this is becoming increasingly difficult which is leading to a rise in popularity of craps.


I lost 80 bucks playing craps my first 10 minutes in vegas.

I then decided it wasn't for me.

I just don't get it.

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